Black Constellation 2852. Authentic or redial? Please help

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Hello Omega lovers,

I need help from more experience people to comment on this Constellation. I'm hunting for a Constellation and find this one in my local market, Thailand. I can't decide the authenticity of this one. Every thing looks shiny, which raises suspicious. The font looks similar to the original but seems not to have serif and text size is a bit too large. The hands and crown look correct. The calibre number is correct, but the color difference between the top and bottom parts makes me suspicious. The case is quite soft, but is it in acceptable range or too bad. Most of the ones show up in my local market have soft case and overly polished. The seller asks for $900-1,100. If it was authentic, would that be a reasonable price?

Thank you very much for any opinion.

 
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A watch prepped for sale to the non-collector - Redial with polished case.
 
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A watch prepped for sale to the non-collector - Redial with polished case.
Thank you. Could you tell how you know it’s redial? I would like to learn.
 
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The fonts of the "n's" in Constellation are too uniform, No serifs, Need a straight legged "M" and RE for me too be happy

Along with a unpolished case
 
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The fonts of the "n's" in Constellation are too uniform, No serifs, Need a straight legged "M" and RE for me too be happy

Along with a unpolished case
Wow ! never notice the M on “METRE” has straight legs, but I forget the RE on 2852. Thank you very much
 
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The indices from 6 - 7 o’clock aren’t in line, instead they curve up slightly in the middle, instead of being aligned as they should be.

 
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The indices from 6 - 7 o’clock aren’t in line, instead they curve up slightly in the middle, instead of being aligned as they should be.

Great observation thank you
 
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For a legit example in this configuration and in good shape, you'll also be looking at a multiple of that prices. 3x or higher.
 
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Redialers always seem to get the i-dot on Constellation wrong, which was my first tell tale along with the wonky minute hash marks mentioned above.
 
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Agreed with the above comments.

However, the black piepan dial with “TER” can be found, even if it might be uncommon, in the late period of reference 2852.
My movement number was 16.5 million.

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Humble Brag Alert!
I have spent enough time reading enough of the forum to be at a point where I can now make a good guess at the answer from the thread title. 🤣
 
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Both versions of ‘TRE’ and ‘TER’ that might be used as references in future example.
@TexOmega , thank you for your close-up picture.
 
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Redialers always seem to get the i-dot on Constellation wrong, which was my first tell tale along with the wonky minute hash marks mentioned above.

That's another point I'll try to remember. Thank you
 
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Both versions of ‘TRE’ and ‘TER’ that might be used as references in future example.
@TexOmega , thank you for your close-up picture.
I saved this for future reference. Thank you
 
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I have a white dial example in nice shape with the same markers. For reference.

 
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I have a white dial example in nice shape with the same markers. For reference.


Oh my God, it left the factory yesterday. Stunning.... Congratulations...
 
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Oh my God, it left the factory yesterday. Stunning.... Congratulations...
Actually still have the papers it left the factory with!
 
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I have a white dial example in nice shape with the same markers. For reference.

Oh man, the condition looks phenomenal. How could you make case and bezel look shiny without polishing?