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dude88
·Looks nice. And what is the asking price?
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Shabbaz
·Crown is wrong. But nice watch.
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Sa Calobra
·Crown is wrong. But nice watch.
My first thought as well, but apparently these later 168.010 Constellations with straight lugs had this crown as well..
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Peemacgee
··Purrrr-veyor of luxury cat box loungersCrown is wrong. But nice watch.
My first thought as well, but apparently these later 168.010 Constellations with straight lugs had this crown as well..
A nice watch indeed.
The case isn’t ultra sharp but I’ll bet it looks good on the wrist.
Good looking dial.
I don’t think 67 is especially late but a 14k case is uncommon.
The crown is similar to one of the options for a replacement crown but I’d be interested to see/hear any information you have found that shows they were supplied on these references from new.
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Hetcins1
·Yeah nice looking watch. Wrong crown
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Sa Calobra
·A nice watch indeed.
The case isn’t ultra sharp but I’ll bet it looks good on the wrist.
Good looking dial.
I don’t think 67 is especially late but a 14k case is uncommon.
The crown is similar to one of the options for a replacement crown but I’d be interested to see/hear any information you have found that shows they were supplied on these references from new.
I was told by the person I bought it from, whom i typically hold in good regard. He shared this url..
https://www.omegawatches.com/watch-omega-constellation-omega-cd-168-0010
But happy to be challenged that this is not enough evidence..
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Peemacgee
··Purrrr-veyor of luxury cat box loungersI was told by the person I bought it from, whom i typically hold in good regard. He shared this url..
https://www.omegawatches.com/watch-omega-constellation-omega-cd-168-0010
But happy to be challenged that this is not enough evidence..
thank you for the response.
The picture of the watch shows the correct ‘hidden crown’ but the OVDB entry is also a bit misleading.
168.010 reference was a replacement for the 168.004, which was released in 62, (although it also had a little-known predecessor, the 14918, possibly issued a year or two earlier)
The 168.010 was released in 66, initially with a cal 561 but soon changing to the new 564 movt.
likewise, it originally had dauphine hands, later changing to pencil hands.
There are two styles of replacement crown for the 168.010 - both expressed crowns and one of them rounded.
Perhaps because of this it has been suggested that 168.010 was delivered with an expressed crown but I don’t think anyone has shown that this was actually the case.
This shouldnt stop you enjoying the watch should you buy it - whilst looking good the hidden crowns are a PITA to use.
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Sa Calobra
·thank you for the response.
The picture of the watch shows the correct ‘hidden crown’ but the OVDB entry is also a bit misleading.
168.010 reference was a replacement for the 168.004, which was released in 62, (although it also had a little-known predecessor, the 14918, possibly issued a year or two earlier)
The 168.010 was released in 66, initially with a cal 561 but soon changing to the new 564 movt.
likewise, it originally had dauphine hands, later changing to pencil hands.
There are two styles of replacement crown for the 168.010 - both expressed crowns and one of them rounded.
Perhaps because of this it has been suggested that 168.010 was delivered with an expressed crown but I don’t think anyone has shown that this was actually the case.
This shouldnt stop you enjoying the watch should you buy it - whilst looking good the hidden crowns are a PITA to use.
I did end up buying it - but really, happy to receive all this feedback. Just so I understand
- the photo shown in the OVDB entry is of an older model, therefore cannot be used as an info for this model
- given that this was the 'typical' replacement crown, it might well be a replacement
- we haven't been able to prove that the 168.010 was delivered with a crown like this
Have we come across 168.010 models with a different 'original' crown? I've done a bit of a search, but have consistently come across the one that's on mine.
Also, given that the model is quite unusual (14k, 25 mill serial with a pie pan), could that be an explanation?
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Peemacgee
··Purrrr-veyor of luxury cat box loungersI did end up buying it - but really, happy to receive all this feedback. Just so I understand
- the photo shown in the OVDB entry is of an older model, therefore cannot be used as an info for this model
- given that this was the 'typical' replacement crown, it might well be a replacement
- we haven't been able to prove that the 168.010 was delivered with a crown like this
Have we come across 168.010 models with a different 'original' crown? I've done a bit of a search, but have consistently come across the one that's on mine.
Also, given that the model is quite unusual (14k, 25 mill serial with a pie pan), could that be an explanation?
The picture in OVDB looks like a 168.010 ( wider spaced lugs than a 168.004)
It is the release date that is misleading.
The rounded expressed crown is one of the two replacement crown options.
A lot (possibly the majority) of ‘hidden crown’ Connies have had their crowns replaced ( the original type are not available as replacements)
A lot of the English gold-cased Connies appear to have expressed crowns ( but these could have been replaced) but I can’t see why a Swiss cased watch would have a different crown.
Of the four pictured below, only the pie pan has the (flat ended) replacement crown, the rest have their original (slightly expressed) hidden crown.
The pink dome dial having the pencil hands I mentioned.
All are 564s.
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Sa Calobra
·Thanks! What is the difference between English cased and Swiss cased? Does English cased means that it was intended for US/AUS/NZ? (that was likely the intention of this model)
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gatorcpa
··ΩF InvestiGatorThanks! What is the difference between English cased and Swiss cased? Does English cased means that it was intended for US/AUS/NZ? (that was likely the intention of this model)
The UK version would likely have a locally made case with special hallmarks required under UK law.
Your watch could have been exported to any country that allowed 14K gold to be considered “solid gold”. That is almost anywhere other than Switzerland or France.
Hope this helps,
gatorcpa
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Peemacgee
··Purrrr-veyor of luxury cat box loungersThanks! What is the difference between English cased and Swiss cased? Does English cased means that it was intended for US/AUS/NZ? (that was likely the intention of this model)
Watches with precious metal cases were cased locally for a period to avoid prohibitive import taxes.
English and French being the most notable and both of very high quality.
- yours is a Swiss cased 14k watch (with the famous squirrel hallmark)
England tended to use 18k and 9k gold - I can’t remember seeing a 14k English Constellation case - only 18k.
IIRC 14k watches were popular in the US although you find them across Europe too.
( cross posts with @gatorcpa )
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hoipolloi
·I am not sure if that crown is a service crown or original but I am sure that the length is correct.
My 18k says hello.
My 18k says hello.
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hoipolloi
·168.010 SS pie pan.
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Sa Calobra
·That is great! So this resolves it the discussion?
It's now on its way to me, will post pictures of the crown when I have it. Can you identify based on a picture if it's original?
It's now on its way to me, will post pictures of the crown when I have it. Can you identify based on a picture if it's original?
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Sherbie
·Nice watch
you may enjoy this video from omega-enthusiast
you may enjoy this video from omega-enthusiast
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Sa Calobra
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This indeed is a very informative video. I will do a double check once I get the watch, but it does seem to be the same crown as referred to in the video.
