Cons of Buying a Watch-Co Built Omega

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Do these WatchCo watches ever show up for sale in the secondary market?

If so, how's the re-sale value? My guess would be pretty good. Is that a good guess??
 
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Sorry Tom, I forgot to answer your question.

Cons of Buying a Watch-Co Built Omega: I can't think of any.
 
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Do these WatchCo watches ever show up for sale in the secondary market?

If so, how's the re-sale value? My guess would be pretty good. Is that a good guess??

Yes. Since the parts and movements started to be less available the prices have escalated. I bought mine for $1,900 and they now seem to be going in the $3k to $3.5k range.

Resale value if you were to buy one now? Who knows if they will continue to increase? I can't imagine getting rid of mine though, it's probably going to be the only permanent watch in my collection.
 
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No one here is forcing anything on anyone, so if after being given the relevant information about how making the watch look new could impact it's value negatively they still choose to do it, at least they went into it with their eyes open. Feel free to jump in give advice counter to what has been given if you like, but it would be nice if you did it without judging the people who have come forward to try to help someone already.

My opinions are likely skewed by the 1911 gun collectors. I'm convinced that some of them do get emphatic about "value loss" and actualy cause people to sell grandpa's gun. Seen it too often to be a coincidence.

This might be amusing or not... back when military small arms were in government inventory, they were serviced without any attention paid to keeping original parts together. Can't win a war that way. Now that the original pieces don't get sold very often, the gun collectors have created for themselves a new category... arsenal rebuilds. We don't care what parts are on it as long as there's an arsenal rebuild stamp on it and the parts are all GI.

The other thing they argue about is making a gun "correct" according to a collector book even though it came out of the armory exactly as it is now. My CMP rifle was like that... had some "incorrect" parts... including a barrel stamped NM. 😀 I sold it though because I quit competition and there's nothing more annoying than shooting a right-handed semiautomatic left-handed (bad right eye).

Back to the Seamaster 300! Another reason to have one is because you have an original production piece that looks new and you're a klutz.

Tom
 
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They were are about 1,600 - 1,800 a few years ago and now go around 3,000 - 3,500 so just based on price uplift alone, I'd say the watch community has no problem with these.

signed
A WatchCo owner

NOTE: I would not buy expecting another doubling in price in a few years.
NOTE2: I know there are other factors involved, but based on (unscientific) watchrecon research, these are hardly a pariah
 
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I guess that's why there is such discussion. IMO and it is an opinion, it is a Franken if the work is not done by the brand itself, but by an independent watchmaker or another brand altogether ...of course the next question is what if an independent as part of a repair job has to use replacement OEM parts? no, it is not a Franken IMO. It is a fine a line...but most people will still expect you to disclose the replacements.

When a watch does not exist or has never been issued or sold...but instead it is made from scratch with a case from here, a hand from there and a movement from somewhere THAT is a Franken. And that is what Watchco does. It is a great watch, and it is an Omega watch, but not an original Omega. If I build a vintage Porche 911 with spare original parts in my garage is that an original Porsche? no. It may be better, or worse, more beautiful, or less, more durable or faster or sleeker...or less. But it won't be an original Porsche.

If the watch has no original parts it is not only a Franken, but it also becomes a fake. In the case of the watch the movements most often come from a different model that carries the same movement. As Archie says on the video. they would not take the moment out of a vintage SM300 to put on a watchco as it would be devaluating the vintage that can be sold for substantially more. They pick the movements from models of lesser commercial value. So your definition is correct, but mine is a little broader.
Great points Nobel Prize. Under some comments about Frankens, here's my Franken. Other than the original (and I'm sure partially rebuilt to perform as new) caliber 861 (kinda reworked/tweaked Lemania, hmmm. Same as original Moonwatch, hmmm.), original, perfectly refinished case, every part is OEM Omega replacements (dial, hands, crystal, pushers).

So, is it original, of course not. I always prefer all original vintage with their warts. I wouldn't call this a Franken. I'd simply call it an artfully restored MK II. Runs, resets perfectly. Over 50 hour reserve (I'm accountant, so yes, I can go all the way to 100 by heart).

Is anyone squawking about the Moonwatch having Lemania-based 861 movement that's non-Omega part at its heart? Hell no. Let's lay off the watchco SHOM as even the purist veers off the beam every now and then for personal enjoyment.

By the way - I have two grand in this pathetic Franken with all original parts stored. Anyone willing to come over to the dark side and buy it for $2K? Probably not because I also replaced the bracelet with a $450 OEM (the last one Otto Frei had). Guess there's no takers so I guess I'll just hang on to it. Dang, there's a 1970 Superbird Franken in background!
 
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Was considering a Watchco SM300, until I realized that the current asking price from Watchco was about the same as a new Black Bay 🙁

That's what has stopped me :/
 
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Here's watchco SHOM I got in trade I've been trying to sell or trade. I think I'm inspired to keep and wear it and hope I live long enough for patina to develop before my kids get it when I croak.

All is tongue-in-cheek before I get aggressive responses! Everyone enjoy their watches. That's what it's all about.
 
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i have a watchco style build i love it has taken a back seat while i sit and stare at my latest vintage one tho 😀
 
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Again, tad bit of sarcasm here with my post. All in good fun I hope!

Glad I have these pristine NOS 😉 6309s to balance things out. Looks all original bezel on first one and dial on second one. Questionable dial on '70 Movado Datron HS 360 Super Subsea w/El Primero movement too. Heeeee! Really, I love original. Love me some patina. Wish I had a vintage SM 300, and a Banana, and....