Connie enquiry

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Hi,

I wondered if I could ask you for a health check on an attractive looking Connie I've seen on Chrono 24 (https://www.chrono24.co.uk/omega/om...n-all-steel-case-dog-leg-lugs--id18864421.htm)
A few questions come to mind:
- The dial looks good and unrestored to me, how does it seem to you? That's my number one concern.
- Would the crown be the original one or would it have been decagonal? I know there are whole threads on this, but I'm not sure what would apply to this model!
- I've seen dauphine minute hands which stretch beyond the dotted lines (which I think you call the rail track) like these ones do, and minute hands which stop roughly on the lines, in both cases on pieces which seem authentic. Do you think these ones are correct?
It's going for £1,450. Reputable seller and recently serviced. Like half the world, I've always wanted a black pie pan with an unrestored dial, but I wonder if it's time to settle happily for this instead? The price seems OK.
Any thoughts you have, including the basics such as the case matching the movement etc, would be hugely welcome. And any comments on the condition.
Thank you, I really appreciate your help.
 
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I say do not buy if you want originality.
I was thinking similar things... Dial printing just wavy enough, second hand just a smidge too long, onyx hands instead of faceted... couldn't prove it was wrong but couldn't prove it was right, either.
 
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Suggestion for OP

you did the right thing here, asking OF members


But, please look at the 100’s of original dial/hands/case Constellations especially all the 100’s of the beautiful pictures of the black dialed Constellations here at our Forum.

concentrate only on looking at originals examples only. Fonts, spacing, layout, and tune your eye to the sheer beauty of these Constellations. Most, like the one you posted, will jump out as one too pass.

and.....

don’t believe descriptions of dealers and their verbiage.

or

buy one here on the forum that’s been vetted and head on down the road


We all started where you are.

good luck

we saved you $16-1700 bucks this time.


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There's already plenty of reasons not to buy the watch in the OP, but I'm curious about what if any sense it can be termed as having a pie-pan dial. Are there facets under those indices, or is this just a domed dial?

It might be the black dial that's throwing me. I can't really discern any facets on @TexOmega 's example either.
 
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Dome masquerading but the pix are poor for evaluating that perfectly, I didn’t get that far after the fonts.

and probably white traveling from the factory


Mine is a pie pan
 
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The dial is refinished and not in a good way. If you really want a pristine, original black dial (dogleg) connie you need to bring out your wallet and have a lot of patience.
 
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Don’t buy that watch. The dial is refinished and very poorly at that.
 
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As soon as you go shopping for black dial Constellations you’re setting a hard target for yourself, its something even veteran collectors are pretty wary of due to how uncommon they are and how frequent redials and even counterfeits are. If you’re really after a black dial try Seamaster instead there’s a nice waffle dial listed on the FS section but otherwise try white/silver dials, its a lot easier to find a good one.
 
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A belated thank you for your wise and thoughtful advice. I really do appreciate it.
It's funny - I've seen a few crude redials and was beginning to think that I was getting a feel for what was original and what wasn't. On this one I checked the whiteness of the font and the lettering, but have clearly got such a long way to go.
I really like the idea of buying from a trusted seller here. I'll keep a close eye on the listings.
Thank you and best wishes.
 
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There are a few signs why this one isn’t correct, but since you mentioned the lettering, compare the close-ups:



The latter is a picture of a Constellation I sold here recently, not a black dial of course but that doesn’t make a difference when it comes to the details. Look at the serifs - they’re clearly recognizable on the white dialed one, while there aren’t any on the one you posted. The distance between the letters is also off, almost looks like auto and matic were two words. I found the focus on the serifs very helpful at the beginning, as many redials that aren’t full-on crude still don’t get them at all. Maybe that’s a little help for the future. 😀