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rainking
·Meanwhile, I already got this first report back from the service center for my RM. Looks like I'll be getting practically a whole new watch by the time they're done with it ...
Condensation Omega Trilogy Railmaster 1957
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BlackTalon
··This Space for RentTo each their own. Their is obviously an issue with the watch, and extensive repairs will be needed. How much of a debate you want to turn it into is up to you. There is principal, and there is reality.
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janw23
·To each their own. Their is obviously an issue with the watch, and extensive repairs will be needed. How much of a debate you want to turn it into is up to you. There is principal, and there is reality.
I think if you go into a boutique, the reality will be that claiming "you just saw this after looking down at your wrist one day", and that you hadn't been near water, would not score you better service. It's more likely to work against you, especially after they open up the case. If you're going to go that way, the lie should at least be believable. But yes, to each their own.
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jackjacob
·You should totally be able to swim with any of the three. As @Archer has said many times, the rating is the rating. I've gone in the pool many times with my Speedy Pro with no issues. I know some on here find that to be a terrifying thought, but when it says 50 or 60M resistance, that's what it should be. It does remind me, though, that before I take the Pro into water again, I need to get the seals checked. But when I get my Railmaster back, with the documentation that it is back in-spec, as far as I'm concerned it should be more than fine for going in a pool or a lake. Whatever is going on with these leaking ones is not normal and is not up to snuff like it is supposed to be.
Omega need to give me *a lot* of reassurances when I get the watch back that its OK again to take it back into water. Cant say this episode has helped me establish trust in the quality of the water resistance of the watch.
Unfort need to wait until Monday before I have a chance to visit the London boutique. Will def let you guys know how I get on.
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janw23
·Omega need to give me *a lot* of reassurances when I get the watch back that its OK again to take it back into water. Cant say this episode has helped me establish trust in the quality of the water resistance of the watch.
Unfort need to wait until Monday before I have a chance to visit the London boutique. Will def let you guys know how I get on.
Would probably be good to take the crown out so the movement isn't activated now that water has ingressed, and contact the boutique beforehand - it's best to get it looked at urgently if you have water damage.
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jackjacob
·OK, good shout, will give them a call today. I can visit local boutique where I am holidaying at the moment (NL), that's not the issue, it's just that the box and warranty card are at home.
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janw23
·OK, good shout, will give them a call today. I can visit local boutique where I am holidaying at the moment (NL), that's not the issue, it's just that the box and warranty card are at home.
On second thought, taking the crown out might suggest to them that you went in the water with the crown out, lol. So maybe just ignore that piece of bad advice.
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padders
··Oooo subtitles!The watch is AFAIK covered against ingress with the crown, which as noted does not screw down, in any position so I don’t think it matters. Find a decent dealer or OB and they should honour the warranty. It would be a bit daft to immerse it intentionally with the crown out IMO but it could have worked loose on the wrist if caught. It can happen. Now on the deeper rated dive Seamaster watches there can be a difference with the crown or He valve in or out but AFAIK on a healthy RM it shouldn’t matter.
Telling white lies over what you did with the watch, or pulling the crown out to to hack it should make no difference. As long as you weren’t diving to 70m you have a strong an irrefutable case. The good thing about these modern recreations is that they can be put back to look new. Vintage can’t.
While all we have is anecdotal evidence, it is just possible that this series are not as water resistant as they should be, but if remedied and tested you should have faith going forward. They should perform as advertised, no ifs or buts.
Telling white lies over what you did with the watch, or pulling the crown out to to hack it should make no difference. As long as you weren’t diving to 70m you have a strong an irrefutable case. The good thing about these modern recreations is that they can be put back to look new. Vintage can’t.
While all we have is anecdotal evidence, it is just possible that this series are not as water resistant as they should be, but if remedied and tested you should have faith going forward. They should perform as advertised, no ifs or buts.
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mhoutman
·For some reason I only like to swim with watches with a screw-in crown. Yet I understood that OMEGA has special technology in the axis? so it is not particularly necessary.
A small anecdote: As Apple fanboy I owned some Apple Watch but recently I gave them all to my eldest son and started enjoying real watches again. A couple of years ago I used a first edition Apple Watch in steel under the shower. There came water inside and Apple wanted me to charge for repair but after I showed them a tweet from Tim Cook that he used the Apple Watch under the shower all was solved.
OT That said, what can't I swim with my speedy or are the pushers the only culprit 😕
A small anecdote: As Apple fanboy I owned some Apple Watch but recently I gave them all to my eldest son and started enjoying real watches again. A couple of years ago I used a first edition Apple Watch in steel under the shower. There came water inside and Apple wanted me to charge for repair but after I showed them a tweet from Tim Cook that he used the Apple Watch under the shower all was solved.
OT That said, what can't I swim with my speedy or are the pushers the only culprit 😕
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mblease
·Note to self. If and when I buy a RM never ever get it wet.
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BlackTalon
··This Space for RentI think if you go into a boutique, the reality will be that claiming "you just saw this after looking down at your wrist one day", and that you hadn't been near water, would not score you better service. It's more likely to work against you, especially after they open up the case. If you're going to go that way, the lie should at least be believable. But yes, to each their own.
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Archer
··Omega Qualified WatchmakerPosition of the crown is irrelevant to water resistance. In fact I just got a quartz SMP in yesterday with stripped threads and a crown that can't screw in:
Pressure testing at -0.7 bar, and then +10 bar:
Passed both tests:
Stripped case tube on the left, and new one on the right:
If you have a valid warranty on the RM, Omega will make it right.
Cheers, Al
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dennisthemenace
·Position of the crown is irrelevant to water resistance. In fact I just got a quartz SMP in yesterday with stripped threads and a crown that can't screw in:
Pressure testing at -0.7 bar, and then +10 bar:
Passed both tests:
Stripped case tube on the left, and new one on the right:
If you have a valid warranty on the RM, Omega will make it right.
Cheers, Al
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padders
··Oooo subtitles!That's a big if seeing as the OP bought the watch grey market.
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Archer
··Omega Qualified WatchmakerThat's a big if seeing as the OP bought the watch grey market.
That's why I used the word mate...
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dennisthemenace
·What do you see in this thread suggesting that is the case? I see nothing on either watch mentioned suggesting that.
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padders
··Oooo subtitles!Read the OP's first post again.
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Bimmerman77
·Yep I did then went d'oh and thought I had deleted my post pretty much immediately, but clearly it didn't delete. I'll leave it there now but even if it was grey market purchased, that doesn't necessarily mean it has no valid warranty. There is grey market and grey market. Buying from Iconic or Chronext for instance in the UK or Europe will get you a cheaper piece but full Omega warranty, buying from Joma in the US will get you a much cheaper piece but a very different warranty. It is the warranty that matters, not the status of the seller.
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padders
··Oooo subtitles!But that’s the question. He said he has a receipt but didn’t mention a warranty card. It could be possible, but highly unlikely that it has one since it came from a grey dealer, but not entirely out of the realm of possibility.
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