Chronostop 145.009 Thoughts? Yes/No?

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Private seller on Chrono24, price is $1,370 negotiable, no service history, no movement photos. I could ask, but if you find it to be overpriced or of no value, I won't bother.
As always, your input would be greatly appreciated!

 
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Private seller on Chrono24, price is $1,370 negotiable, no service history, no movement photos. I could ask, but if you find it to be overpriced or of no value, I won't bother.
As always, your input would be greatly appreciated!

Looks nice. To me seems to have original dial, lume is intact and case seems unpolished.

Little bit more money than I just paid for mine. But mine only had worn out strap and I think I got better than average deal. Paid $1070 for this. Everything working, but low'ish amplitude, so will go to service.

 
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IMO, thats a bit overpriced, and about a $750 service is obviously going to be needed right away. Case looks unpolished and crisp, though worn. Original strap is neat, but obviously torn it apperas.

Dial + hands look nice too.

IMO, the grey dial is the lost value of the chronostops, and this isn't a 'driver'. I don't think I'd pay more than ~$950 for one unless it had box/papers/fresh-service/etc (Driver adds ~150 to that for me, rarer dial varies), but this is kinda 'basic'.
 
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IMO, thats a bit overpriced, and about a $750 service is obviously going to be needed right away. Case looks unpolished and crisp, though worn. Original strap is neat, but obviously torn it apperas.

Dial + hands look nice too.

IMO, the grey dial is the lost value of the chronostops, and this isn't a 'driver'. I don't think I'd pay more than ~$950 for one unless it had box/papers/fresh-service/etc (Driver adds ~150 to that for me, rarer dial varies), but this is kinda 'basic'.
I have often wondered why Chronostops have such low price point on average. Maybe it's the dial color like you suggested. Though I find their grey tone going well together with lots of different outfits.
 
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I have often wondered why Chronostops have such low price point on average. Maybe it's the dial color like you suggested. Though I find their grey tone going well together with lots of different outfits.
I personally ALSO like the grey ones! I hear blue is gorgeous, but I've never seen one in person.

Frankly, I think they are under-loved/under-rated, but I suspect they'll stay that way. They are nifty, but the lack of a running seconds hand, and the fairly useless chronograph configuration make them more of a 'style' thing than a useful complication.
 
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I personally ALSO like the grey ones! I hear blue is gorgeous, but I've never seen one in person.

Frankly, I think they are under-loved/under-rated, but I suspect they'll stay that way. They are nifty, but the lack of a running seconds hand, and the fairly useless chronograph configuration make them more of a 'style' thing than a useful complication.
Yep, that's all true.
 
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sort of positive cause it's unique and not common type of flat level dial. can't comment on the price though.
 
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Another one.
When the case back does not match the bezel, are we always talking about a "Franken" or it could be considered a "Marriage"?
For instance, the seller has listed this one as 146.009 (regular orientation/date/920), the bezel is 145.009 (regular orientation/ no-date/865), the movement is 865, but the case back shows 146.009 and 146.010 (Driver/date/920).

Last, is there a way to find out what a Chronostop Geneve was when it left the factory from the serial number showing on the movement?

Again, tons of thanks to the connoisseurs for educating the rest of us!

 
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First, Marriage and Franken are the same thing 😁 The former is what we tell people after they've bought it to make them not feel as bad.

Second: What are you referring to as the 'bezel' here? There is no 'bezel' so to speak on those ones, just the dial and case.

As you've noticed, the case back doesn't match the dial/movement. So one of two things happened here:
--Case back was swapped
--Movement/dial/etc swapped into a whole new case.

Either are plausible. Whether that REALLY matters is up to you. I'd expect a discount, but otherwise it wouldn't matter to me whatsoever. The cases between the 145/146 are identical, and only the case back printing differs.

As a review of that one:

Case has some damage at 1230 that isn't particularly clear to me how bad it is. Lume/hands/dial all look pretty good as far as I can tell from those bad photos, and the movement looks fine enough. Obviously you'd want to put some work into getting it serviced immediately after buying.
 
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@ErichKeane
Haha, I love the Franken/Marriage clarification!
Sorry for the lost-in-translation bezel, I meant dial.
And thank you, thank you, thank you for the valuable input!!!
 
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Ah, yes then. The dial/movement doesn't match the case back. We can't really say anything else beyond that.

If I had to guess, I'd say some watchmaker along the way had a hard time opening it, damaged the case back, so replaced it with one he had in stock, which was a 'close enough'.