Certified Pre Owned Madness

ibis888 · Mon. 1:02pm

Came across this listing for a certified pre owned meters first 5513.

$40,000. Polished case, incorrect bracelet, incorrect crown, hands suspect, bezel maybe not original.

Pretty wild. This watch is maybe worth $10-$12k?

For the same money, you can get the world’s nicest meters first 5512.

https://www.fourtane.com/rolex-cert...p/oyster-perpetual-submariner40mm55130-9.html

southtexas · Mon. 1:17pm

that's ridiculous.

spacemission · Tues. 3:22am

And the ramonetas are still keeping quiet on this matter.

Hal10000 · Tues. 5:33pm

It's not even attractive

southtexas · Tues. 5:36pm

what's a ramoneta?

Hal10000
It's not even attractive

agreed, overpolished case/crown guards, mismatched hands, service insert. That price tag is just offensive.

Dan S · Tues. 6:12pm

The prices are silly, and the quality is all over the place. You need to keep in mind that this whole program is designed to be a gift from Rolex to the ADs.

I will add that Rolex plays semantic games with the history of these watches as well. The do come with a warranty (2 years, IIRC), and are "certified" by Rolex (whatever that means), but they do not explicitly indicate that each watch is serviced by Rolex. And I have firsthand knowledge that they are a mix of watches certified and serviced by an RSC and others that are serviced and inspected locally by an AD's service department. As a result, I have actually seen RCPO watches advertised online with aftermarket parts. In one case, I saw a bezel insert that was one of the well-known fakes.

So not only is the price ridiculous, but the whole premise that you are paying for world-class authentication and service is deeply flawed.

ibis888 · Tues. 6:28pm

Does authenticity even matter when the authentic parts are all service replacements?

Dan S · Tues. 6:33pm

ibis888
Does authenticity even matter when the authentic parts are all service replacements?

I agree, but many buyers are not really collectors, we just don't see them on the forum so much.

ibis888 · Tues. 6:43pm

I find it all fascinating. It's not very hard at all to find your way to Windvintage or Mentawatches or even Bob's Watches and get a relatively honest vintage Rolex at a fraction of that insane price. Who is the buyer?

Hal10000 · Tues. 7:40pm

ibis888
I find it all fascinating. It's not very hard at all to find your way to Windvintage or Mentawatches or even Bob's Watches and get a relatively honest vintage Rolex at a fraction of that insane price. Who is the buyer?

This price makes Wind Vintage seem like a downright steal!

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