caseback of constellation

Diegomega59 · Apr 27, 2023

Hi everyone,

Very happy to have new members leave.!

I just bought this Connie. I checked the dial, the movement and the case, everything seems ok from my point of view
Could you please give me your point of view regarding the cash fund? Indeed, even if the medallion seems correct, the interior beading seems a little poor. No circle is visible.
Would that be normal for a Connie from the early 60s?
I thought that kind of poor beading was for a later example

Thanks in advance

David

Diegomega59 · Apr 27, 2023

Translation mistake :
"very happy to be one of the new members" 😀

Gui13250 · Apr 27, 2023

Hi all,

Diego is actually a bit worried about the poor perlage on the inner case back.

I must say that, for an early 60’s Connie I would have expected a circle perlage. This one seems a bit messy.
But apart from that, the rest seems ok to my eyes.

Maybe some experienced members could help him? Would be great to have @Peemacgee point of view on this one 😀

PlainVanilla · Apr 27, 2023

Calling @MtV to the rescue.

Seems OK to me as I've seen others like this one but let's hear what the real pros say.

Peemacgee · Apr 27, 2023

Gui13250
Hi all,

Diego is actually a bit worried about the poor perlage on the inner case back.

I must say that, for an early 60’s Connie I would have expected a circle perlage. This one seems a bit messy.
But apart from that, the rest seems ok to my eyes.

Maybe some experienced members could help him? Would be great to have @Peemacgee point of view on this one 😀

I figured he meant perlage.

Do we have a serial number for the watch?

The photos really aren't that great but I can't see anything obviously wrong with the dial.
We could do with full (decent) pics of the watch , sides, movt etc.

Regarding the perlaging, with an SGR case, I would have expected a spiral effect in the perlaging but sometimes photographs make perlaging look really off.
SGR cases generally have heavier ref. no. etching but earlier ones tend to have slightly finer ref no. etching - hence asking the movt no.

MtV · Apr 27, 2023

Peemacgee
I figured he meant perlage.

Do we have a serial number for the watch?

The photos really aren't that great but I can't see anything obviously wrong with the dial.
We could do with full (decent) pics of the watch , sides, movt etc.

Regarding the perlaging, with an SGR case, I would have expected a spiral effect in the perlaging but sometimes photographs make perlaging look really off.
SGR cases generally have heavier ref. no. etching but earlier ones tend to have slightly finer ref no. etching - hence asking the movt no.

I couldn’t contribute anything further that’d be of substance.

Diegomega59 · Apr 27, 2023

Peemacgee
J'ai pensé qu'il parlait de perlage.

Avons-nous un numéro de série pour la montre ?

Les photos ne sont vraiment pas géniales mais je ne vois rien de mal évidemment avec le cadran.
Nous pourrions faire avec des photos complètes (décentes) de la montre, des côtés, du mouvement, etc.

En ce qui concerne le perlage, avec un boîtier SGR, je me serais attendu à un effet de spirale dans le perlage, mais parfois les photographies font que le perlage semble vraiment décalé.
Les boîtiers SGR ont généralement une réf. Non. gravure mais les plus anciennes ont tendance à avoir une réf légèrement plus fine. gravure - d'où la demande du numéro de mouvement

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Hi everyone, thank you for your answers.
Here are some photos.
Looks like the watch is 66 or 67...

Peemacgee · Apr 27, 2023

thank you David, @Diegomega59

You are about right with your dating, around late '66 would be a good estimate, so I wouldn't call a 24,41XX movement a particularly 'early' dogleg - about 'midstream'.
However, the style of writing is much clearer in these photos and show the 'finer' SGR font I was attempting to describe earlier.

I see nothing wrong with the outside of the caseback or the movement and so, IMHO, the perlaging is just a bit 'in your face' on this example and nothing to worry about.

All in all, a nice no-date pie pan dogleg. 👍

X350 XJR · Apr 27, 2023

Age related pitting not likely to be found on a fake case back.

The biggest fail on the counterfeit cases is the medallion, particularly the stars and this one checks out just fine.

hoipolloi · Apr 27, 2023

Can I have a close up on the dial to see how nice it is?

PlainVanilla · Apr 27, 2023

X350 XJR
Age related pitting not likely to be found on a fake case back.

Exactly what I said to the OP. 😀

Diegomega59 · Apr 27, 2023

Here are some photos...

PlainVanilla · Apr 27, 2023

D Diegomega59
Here are some photos...

Authentic. 👍

Diegomega59 · Apr 29, 2023

Thank you @Gui13250 @PlainVanilla @Peemacgee @MtV @X350 XJR !!!

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