Can you help me identify this speedmaster

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My grandfather bought it as a present for my father in Switzerland. That’s the only thing I know about it
 
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Hard to say when there's watch to look at.
 
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Probably a 145.012-67. Bezel, crown and maybe some other parts have been replaced. Nice but not exactly in the best condition.
 
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So helpful. Does it has any value apart of the sentimental value ?
 
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Without spending much time looking at the finer details, it’s going to be worth at least $4500. Likely a bit more.
 
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A decent watchmaker could open it up for you to see inside. If so, get a note of the caseback number, caliber number and movement number. Don't try to open it yourself, you'll just most likely damage the watch. The watch value would increase a good bit if you could find the original paperwork. If you find it, buy an Omega box and sell with that. In addition any servicing details would help. Stress to new buyer that it's been a one owner watch.
or....... You could spend $1200 to service and fix it up and use/keep to pass on. Once it's gone it's gone!
 
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If you have a watch, papers, a box, and any other accessories it was sold with, it will make the so-called full set. Full sets are more desirable for collectors and usually are more expensive. You can browse ebay for instance and see the price difference.
 
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I’m not sure if you’re AI or spouting generic nonsense. Of course a full set adds a premium, but simply buying a vintage box, even if you take the time to find a period correct one, will at best add the value of the box and just add likely add no value whatsoever
 
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I’m not sure if you’re AI or spouting generic nonsense. Of course a full set adds a premium, but simply buying a vintage box, even if you take the time to find a period correct one, will at best add the value of the box and just add likely add no value whatsoeveron the OP
Hi David, it is Sunday and you seem to be very high strung. I wrote why I see full sets more valuable (at least to me). What you write is correct, I never intended to say that only buying a box and selling a watch with it adds additional value. Having said that, my opinion on the OP is simple: if it were my grandfather's watch, I would just service and wear it.
 
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Hi David, it is Sunday and you seem to be very high strung. I wrote why I see full sets more valuable (at least to me). What you write is correct, I never intended to say that only buying a box and selling a watch with it adds additional value. Having said that, my opinion on the OP is simple: if it were my grandfather's watch, I would just service and wear it.
Yep, that’s fair enough. That probably was a bit rude.

I would rarely advise trying to make a full set though, especially in planning for sale as 1) it’s deceitful and 2) it’ll likely cost you as much as you gain.
For a watch that’s staying with me I also can’t see any benefit to ‘creating’ a full set, unless perhaps you have papers, documents, booklets etc and are just missing a box. That’s fairly unusual though.
 
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No offense taken. I think what you write is correct and provides good advice for the OP.
 
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My grandfather bought it as a present for my father in Switzerland. That’s the only thing I know about it
Torifer, if you go to the below link, you will see an example (a fine example), of a pristine 145.012 similar to your father's watch. You could use this as a comparator against what you have.
There are immediate differences as others here, have already pointed out, namely;
1. Bezel (that's the outer black ring), should be a base 500 DON bezel.
2. Crown (I believe should be a 7mm example??)
3. Chrono hand (Seconds), yours looks to be a service hand (I could be wrong on this as there are other examples that show the square-ended spear)??
4. As for the bracelet, with yours being 1039/516, appears to be correct for period, however just be aware that variants do exist so, it isn't fair to say yours is 'not' original in my opinion.... (others may have better advice, or in fact disagree with me??)

I tend to lean toward 'padders' suggestion of a dash 67 variety.
Link:
https://speedmaster101.com/145-012/
 
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I also tend to lean towards it being a 145.012-67, I can even see the 67 date code on the blade of the bracelet. Interesting that so many parts were replaced on a family piece like this. Usually DON bezels were swapped out in the last decade or so because they became so valuable.
 
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I also tend to lean towards it being a 145.012-67, I can even see the 67 date code on the blade of the bracelet. Interesting that so many parts were replaced on a family piece like this. Usually DON bezels were swapped out in the last decade or so because they became so valuable.
Agreed with you there Dan. Approx 2015 onwards the DON bezels have steadily shot up in price...
 
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a very nice piece, I would love to have a family one like this one, a good relumge of the hands and tritium indexes with a revision, and I would wear this heritage as is afterwards