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Can you help me? 2307?
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sirtaifun
·We need the reference number from inside of the case and maybe a picture of the movement.
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JimInOz
··Melbourne AustraliaWe need the reference number from inside of the case and maybe a picture of the movement.
I don't think that will be of any help.
This is probably a fake.
To @realcoolcat, if you want valid feedback, please read this.
https://omegaforums.net/threads/vintage-omega-posting-guide.383/
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JimInOz
··Melbourne AustraliaBTW, I have never seen a poinçons de maître with a letter (not number) inside the hammer head mark.
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ApolloXVII
·One of the first things which i learn about Omega watches was that they never stamp a reference number or gold marked etc on the outside of the case back..If you see something like that on the outside of the watch it's fake..
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sirtaifun
·BTW, I have never seen a poinçons de maître with a letter (not number) inside the hammer head mark.
So it seems that this case is fake you should test it if its even solid gold though I have no hopes.
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realcoolcat
·Thanks for the info. It's a good reality check. 😀 I have lowered my expectations for when I bring it to a place to have look on the inside. Thanks again
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realcoolcat
·So, I have an update.
I brought the watch to the certified Omega boutique in my town.
They said the watch is not a fake. It's a vintage from the 50's. Case is gold made in Italy and the watch movement of course made in Switzerland. Cal 267
I thought it was broken but when they opened it up (so I could have a look inside) it was actually working, just the hands that were not moving. Also they said it has never been opened before.
It is now at the boutique getting the hands fixed, being cleaned up and will also get new well deserved alligator straps. 😀
Here is the picture of the inside.
I brought the watch to the certified Omega boutique in my town.
They said the watch is not a fake. It's a vintage from the 50's. Case is gold made in Italy and the watch movement of course made in Switzerland. Cal 267
I thought it was broken but when they opened it up (so I could have a look inside) it was actually working, just the hands that were not moving. Also they said it has never been opened before.
It is now at the boutique getting the hands fixed, being cleaned up and will also get new well deserved alligator straps. 😀
Here is the picture of the inside.
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Olhenry56
·I'm glad you got some good news about the movement. Did you get a photo of inside the case back? The case is confusing me.
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Olhenry56
·Here's a similar case on a Tissot. It's the only other "2307 60" that comes up on Google, so perhaps both cases are not genuine.
https://vintagewatchco.com.au/2307-60-tissot-18ct-rose-gold-dress-watch.html
https://vintagewatchco.com.au/2307-60-tissot-18ct-rose-gold-dress-watch.html
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sirtaifun
·Congrats!
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JimInOz
··Melbourne AustraliaHere's a similar case on a Tissot. It's the only other "2307 60" that comes up on Google, so perhaps both cases are not genuine.
https://vintagewatchco.com.au/2307-60-tissot-18ct-rose-gold-dress-watch.html
Now that we know the origin of the case I think it may be OK, I doubt if a genuine movement would be used in a fake case.
At that time, uncased watch movements were shipped to countries outside Switzerland to reduce import costs.
Local agents then arranged for a case maker to produce cases for the movements. It was done in many countries, even here in Australia, but I had never seen the "Italian" example.
And as an Italian production case it won't have any 18K Swiss hallmarks (Helvetia/Queen's head). I am concerned though by the 720 as @sirtaifun noted, it should be 750, even for Italian 18K gold.
You can always get a gold test done to confirm the purity or otherwise of the case.
Do you have a photo of the inside of the caseback?
(although it probably won't be marked).
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realcoolcat
·I don't have a picture of the caseback but I did have a peek at it and there was nothing marked on it. This is why they said it has never been opened, because there were no markings.
Btw I am very new at this. This watch has been in a box inside for ages and it only resurfaced when I mentioned to a new friend that has a nice watch collection that I had an some old watches from my dad somewhere in a box. He made me search for it.
I first showed him a Mido (yeah, as you can see I am not an expert) and my friend immediately to had his eyes drawn to the other watch, that I honestly never really cared about since it had stopped working.
I did some research on the .720 and it does seem odd to have 18k marked on the back along with 720. 720 gold does exist but it's not actually considered 18k. I guess I will ask the watchmaker at Omega boutique if he knows anything more about it when I go pick it up in hopefully 2-3 weeks.
Btw I am very new at this. This watch has been in a box inside for ages and it only resurfaced when I mentioned to a new friend that has a nice watch collection that I had an some old watches from my dad somewhere in a box. He made me search for it.
I first showed him a Mido (yeah, as you can see I am not an expert) and my friend immediately to had his eyes drawn to the other watch, that I honestly never really cared about since it had stopped working.
I did some research on the .720 and it does seem odd to have 18k marked on the back along with 720. 720 gold does exist but it's not actually considered 18k. I guess I will ask the watchmaker at Omega boutique if he knows anything more about it when I go pick it up in hopefully 2-3 weeks.
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DON
·I would have the case tested for gold content just to get an idea on the karat.
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realcoolcat
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One thing the watchmaker said is that the case seemed to be gold but movement was not.
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JimInOz
··Melbourne AustraliaNo part of the movement is gold.
Dial indices and hands are probably gold plated.
The case may seem to be gold, but until it's tested you won't know.
Dial indices and hands are probably gold plated.
The case may seem to be gold, but until it's tested you won't know.
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sirtaifun
·Don`t say that generally on the hands there are Omega out there with dial and hands solid gold.
I don`t think so for this watch but just for information.
All parts of the movement are rose gold plated against korrosion something Omega does till today.
I don`t think so for this watch but just for information.
All parts of the movement are rose gold plated against korrosion something Omega does till today.
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JimInOz
··Melbourne AustraliaDon`t say that generally on the hands there are Omega out there with dial and hands solid gold.
I don`t think so for this watch but just for information.
All parts of the movement are copper plated against korrosion something Omega does till today.
FIFY 😉
I don't know that Omega plates parts with rose gold these days, but at the time of the OPs watch, the parts (either beryllium bronze or brass) were plated with copper.
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sirtaifun
·OK thx, so lets say Omega plate their parts of movements against korrosion till present day 😉
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