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Can no Omegas be considered to have in-house movements?
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Patent guy
·In really comes down to what you consider in house. Until you know what your definition of it is, the debate is endless.
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Fatcat
·Looks like NO, but when you see the crap form others company calling as "Manufacture" well I prefer Omega , in the past in the 60 and 70 ETA and lemania where the unique manufacturer .
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cicindela
··Steve @ ΩFIs anyone else imagining Alice in Wonderland yet? So, the term actually has NO meaning in a legally enforceable sense, right?
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This video is further confusing the issue because both people are acting like they know an agreed definition for "In House Movement". There is no agreed definition for that term, and no agency to enforce any regulation pertaining to the term (or so it now appears).
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padders
··Oooo subtitles!I think you had better explain what you mean since I like Archer think that this is just plain wrong.
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nygiants
·I think you had better explain what you mean since I like Archer think that this is just plain wrong.
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TNTwatch
·If you are a purist the answer is simple. Confine yourself to pieces from before circa 1975 when the insidious creep of 'cooperation' and joint projects diluted the in house purity. The autos from 1980-2005 are pretty much off the shelf ETA with perhaps a bit of tinkering or decoration but movements like the 565 were the real deal.
The 5xx and 10xx series were indeed unique to Omega, but this was quite a unique phenomenon happened when Omega was pretty much the strongest in the industry.
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nygiants
·There was no purity. None of the Omega wristwatch chronograph movements since the 1930s were made solely by or for Omega.
The 5xx and 10xx series were indeed unique to Omega, but this was quite a unique phenomenon happened when Omega was pretty much the strongest in the industry.
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nygiants
·Oh I was referring to the topic about in house movements.. Omega needs to compare with rolex and for that all their models al have to be in house
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padders
··Oooo subtitles!Yeah but modern Omega's from 2016 I believe are all in house movements
Don't forget that Rolex shamelessly used a modified Zenith movement in the Daytona for years so they aren't immune too.
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TNTwatch
·Oh I was referring to the topic about in house movements.. Omega needs to compare with rolex and for that all their models al have to be in house
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Holy moley
·I have heard it said that Seiko is the only watch company that can claim to be truly "in house".
But I'm no expert on the industry...
..I just like wearing nice looking watches.
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Holy moley
·What's special about the Rolex in house compared to ETA or Omega movements? Rolex is in the strongest position in the Swiss watch industry so that affords them to have the movements all for themselves. Does that make it any better compared to others?
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nygiants
·The 1861 is hardly in house and the 3330 is ultimatley based on the Valjoux 7750 so there are still plenty of 'out house' movements. See what I did there!
Don't forget that Rolex shamelessly used a modified Zenith movement in the Daytona for years so they aren't immune too.
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nygiants
·All Seiko's are "in house" movements? Try China and Malaysia. Open the case on the new Seiko's less then $500 and you will see China stamped inside. I now because I bought one. Even Orient brand that used Japan movements and in house cases has gone Chinese now, except its printed in ink on the interior case back so you can remove it. Oh, the inhumanity of it all!
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··Nowhere near as grumpy as he used to be...Again so much face palm. Define inhouse before you start saying someone is or is not inhouse.
People are making contradictory statements as everyone is using a different definition.
No one says Seiko is not 100% in house they meet all normal definitions. 100% designed and manufactured by Seiko. Location of part construction has nothing to do with in house.
The sticking point on inhouse is if it was based on someone else's caliber or was modified caliber. Example Paneri claims in house but they are modifying eta movements. Example 1861/861/321 is a rebranded movement but made by a subsidiary. Zenith Daytonas... 60% or more of the parts are modified but they still got Off the line EP movements then modified inhouse. Some Patek's are made 100% in house but are based with interchangeable parts from Lemania etc. In what is listed above different people call all of those inhouse, some none, most think some are inhouse.
People are making contradictory statements as everyone is using a different definition.
No one says Seiko is not 100% in house they meet all normal definitions. 100% designed and manufactured by Seiko. Location of part construction has nothing to do with in house.
The sticking point on inhouse is if it was based on someone else's caliber or was modified caliber. Example Paneri claims in house but they are modifying eta movements. Example 1861/861/321 is a rebranded movement but made by a subsidiary. Zenith Daytonas... 60% or more of the parts are modified but they still got Off the line EP movements then modified inhouse. Some Patek's are made 100% in house but are based with interchangeable parts from Lemania etc. In what is listed above different people call all of those inhouse, some none, most think some are inhouse.
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