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Calling all Pocket Watch Buffs

Bernhard J
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Arrived today, cylinder escapement, quarter repeater, ca. 1807. Remarkable: the number on the dial (3369) differs by 1 from the number on the movement (3370). The signatures are the same, of course. Apparently the differing numbers were "suspicious" to other potential buyers. I am sure that it is original like that.

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Bernhard J Bernhard J
Arrived today, cylinder escapement, quarter repeater, ca. 1807. Remarkable: the number on the dial (3369) differs by 1 from the number on the movement (3370). The signatures are the same, of course. Apparently the differing numbers were "suspicious" to other potential buyers. I am sure that it is original like that........

Somewhere on the planet there is probably a watch with similar juxtaposed serial numbers.

Diamond cap jewel?
 
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Bernhard J Bernhard J
Arrived today, cylinder escapement, quarter repeater, ca. 1807. Remarkable: the number on the dial (3369) differs by 1 from the number on the movement (3370). The signatures are the same, of course. Apparently the differing numbers were "suspicious" to other potential buyers. I am sure that it is original like that.

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Truly stunning Bernhard!
 
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There are 3 in my home and 2 others - a size 12 Waltham gf hunter that my daughter wears on a slip chain and a size 14 gf Omega that my son has. The 3 remaining ones are all serviced and functional. None are particularly noteworthy, although the Waltham has a nice inscription and was presented by the town upon return from WWI.

Size 16 Waltham gf
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Size 12 Waltham gf
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Size 16 Omega 2 position adjusted gf
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Wow, these are beautiful.

Can't say I'd ever be into collecting them, but I do wonder do you ever carry them? Like, where is it normal to ever just pull one out to tell the time, at the steam train club?
 
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According to Philip Priestley’s compendium on English case makers, the case may be by John Nevill, 14 Cold Bath Square, Clerkenwell, and 4, Vineyard Walk, Clerkenwell. The listing shows he was in business from 1789 until 1806. Diamond end stone on the verge staff. One can but wonder how a watch that is 220 years old has survived in the condition this one is in! Nice catch, @Bernhard J !
 
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@CBM1590

Aspirational Bunn to pair with that fine 1921 example. Keep on the lookout.

Circa 1931 with factory WGF case

That artifact around 6pm is on the crystal
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The Illinois movement is marked Elinvar. The name refers to the material used in the balance wheel and hairspring. This alloy is not affected by magnetism or temperature change. It was discovered by a Swiss physicist, Charles Edouard Guillaume. Other U S watch companies featured alloys that were the equivalent to Elinvar. Elgin called their alloy Elginium, and Waltham called their alloy Conium, Hamilton likely bought the copyright, thereby using the name Elinvar, then later Elinvar Extra. Edouard Guillaume:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Édouard_Guillaume

The handsome Illinois has a serial number which would indicate the watch was made after Hamilton bought the Illinois Watch Co.
 
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Aurelius Aurelius
Wow, these are beautiful.

Can't say I'd ever be into collecting them, but I do wonder do you ever carry them? Like, where is it normal to ever just pull one out to tell the time, at the steam train club?

Take a look at the pages in this thread and you’ll, see that a lot of us carry a pocket watch at least somewhat regularly. Usually on a leather lanyard, less so on a more formal chain. I rarely carry one in the summer, but I do regularly on weekends when the weather allows for wearing jeans. I can’t say I’ve encountered many pocket watch wearers in the wild though…
 
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Surprise. I was wondering why it appears that this watch looks better in real than in the sales listing. Suddenly I realized that the seller had replaced the too short minute hand and the (horrible) seconds hand by appropriate ones. Without mentioning 😀. Compare

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TexOmega
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Value added service is always welcomed!👍👍




Whereas, my sales force decided between listing pictures and me opening the shipping box, someone decided to remove the "nasty-old" blue wax on my Zenith A386.👎
 
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TexOmega
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No, but I've always focused on US pocket watches, mostly. Very nice
 
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No, but I've always focused on US pocket watches, mostly. Very nice

Me too, and don’t tell @Bernhard J 😉 but I have little interest in European pocket watches. This is at a local auction and the compas has me intrigued. Plus, I don’t have a key-wind watch yet.
 
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Me too, and don’t tell @Bernhard J 😉 but I have little interest in European pocket watches. This is at a local auction and the compas has me intrigued. Plus, I don’t have a key-wind watch yet.

I did not read the first sentence 😎 and concentrate on the watch. This is a quite low grade Swiss fake with cylinder escapement, intended to appear to be an English watch. During it´s production it really never even came near Liverpool. The signature "Tobias" is known for this kind of fakes. The compas is no unusual feature in these watches either, but of course attracts attention. Goal achieved 😉.

If you get it for a moderate 2-figure amount, and if you like it, go for it.😁
 
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Bernhard J Bernhard J
I did not read the first sentence 😎 and concentrate on the watch. This is a quite low grade Swiss fake with cylinder escapement, intended to appear to be an English watch. During it´s production it really never even came near Liverpool. The signature "Tobias" is known for this kind of fakes. The compas is no unusual feature in these watches either, but of course attracts attention. Goal achieved 😉.

If you get it for a moderate 2-figure amount, and if you like it, go for it.😁


😲This is why I swim in my own backyard pool.👍
 
DaveK
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Bernhard J Bernhard J
I did not read the first sentence 😎 and concentrate on the watch. This is a quite low grade Swiss fake with cylinder escapement, intended to appear to be an English watch. During it´s production it really never even came near Liverpool. The signature "Tobias" is known for this kind of fakes. The compas is no unusual feature in these watches either, but of course attracts attention. Goal achieved 😉.

If you get it for a moderate 2-figure amount, and if you like it, go for it.😁

I was right to put a high bid of $20 on it.
 
TexOmega
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It was time😉 to engage my key wind watches and again, marvel at the beauty of GW Ladd cases.

circa 1874-5 Rockford

Artifacts are on the crystal not dial
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It was time😉 to engage my key wind watches and again, marvel at the beauty of GW Ladd cases.

circa 1874-5 Rockford

Artifacts are on the crystal not dial

Now that I own a couple of Ladd cases PW I can really appreciate your high (and justified) opinion of them
 
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