Calling all Pocket Watch Buffs

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Please, sameone advise- it is original or pocket watch conversion?
Omega watch from the early 20th Century with lugs added so you can wear with a strap. I see these referred to as transitional. I have made straps for these in the past. Very wearable. As for the originality of the hands and crown, I leave that to the experts. Dial looks good. Note the position of the crown on my Waltham. (I no longer own it). The crown and lugs on the Omega pictured would not be ideal. Crown at 12 would be best worn on a wristlet, held in place with a bow. Photo from @TexOmega
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Late in the 19th century, before the rising popularity of the wrist watch, this type of watch might have been worn by a woman, carried on a long chain, and hung from a chatelaine (type of brooch), pinned to the front of the dress or jacket. These women’s watches were produced in both open faced styles and hunter (covered front) styles. Open faced watches had the winder at the 12, and hunter styles generally had the winder at the 3. Both might have been used by women. Early wrist watches usually utilized the hunter cased styles (crown at 3, but without the cover). Many of these open faced watches (crown at 3) were converted for use as wrist watches by their owners. The subject watch is an open faced model (crown at12). Converting such watches (I consider) is awkward because the lugs were added at the 9 and 3 positions, thus the orientation on the wrist is a bit awkward. Yours may very well be a conversion, but it appears to have been well done, so it is anyone’s guess as the whether it is a conversion, or perhaps made that way.

I have shown a picture of a Rolex of about the same vintage. It has the crown at the 3, and it might have been considered a conversion, but it was made this way.

 
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Late in the 19th century, before the rising popularity of the wrist watch, this type of watch might have been worn by a woman, carried on a long chain, and hung from a chatelaine (type of brooch), pinned to the front of the dress or jacket. These women’s watches were produced in both open faced styles and hunter (covered front) styles. Open faced watches had the winder at the 12, and hunter styles generally had the winder at the 3. Both might have been used by women. Early wrist watches usually utilized the hunter cased styles (crown at 3, but without the cover). Many of these open faced watches (crown at 3) were converted for use as wrist watches by their owners. The subject watch is an open faced model (crown at12). Converting such watches (I consider) is awkward because the lugs were added at the 9 and 3 positions, thus the orientation on the wrist is a bit awkward. Yours may very well be a conversion, but it appears to have been well done, so it is anyone’s guess as the whether it is a conversion, or perhaps made that way.

I have shown a picture of a Rolex of about the same vintage. It has the crown at the 3, and it might have been considered a conversion, but it was made this way.

@Canuck you’ve shown me your above Rolex before and shared its history. May I be the first to call dibs on it… even though I know you should never part with it. And please feel free to share it’s long history with you once more.
 
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@Canuck you’ve shown me your above Rolex before and shared its history. May I be the first to call dibs on it… even though I know you should never part with it. And please feel free to share its long history with you once more.

That Rolex was a “project”, for sure. Two of us bought out a deceased watchmaker. Amongst the stuff I bought was a Rebberg (maker) movement marked Rolex. Some years later, my friend was going through what he had bought, and he discovered the sterling watch case (marked W & D, for Wilsdorf & Davis) without a movement. Do I surrender the movement to him, or does he surrender the case to me? This was up in the air for several years until he came to like a watch from my collection. We swapped, and I finished assembling the Rolex.
 
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Nice! I keep looking at these as a cheap way into pocket watches but keep getting distracted by some of the amazing movement decoration regularly posted in this forum.
Here is a stainless steel Hamilton 992b, double sunk dial, that appears to be in pretty good shape and running. You may be looking for a more ornate case, but I figured I’d pass it along in case you or someone might be interested. I’m still going to pick up a Smiths at some point to add to my collection.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/3150078572...y0vnmjksim&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
 
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Nice! I keep looking at these as a cheap way into pocket watches but keep getting distracted by some of the amazing movement decoration regularly posted in this forum.

I totally agree with you 👍
 
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Nice! I keep looking at these as a cheap way into pocket watches but keep getting distracted by some of the amazing movement decoration regularly posted in this forum.

I have this French piece and for all the movement does not have detailing it still has in my opinion a good look about it 😀

 
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I thought I’d try something with my iPad. Use the magnifier app, enlarge the CPR logo on my 1883 Waltham, and see what the result might be. Of course to deploy the camera when using the magnifier appears to be out of the question, so I thought I’d do a screen shot. The result. Even better when I crop it!
 
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So I can't contribute any pocket watch photos (yet) but I bought the book "500 years 100 watches" a few months ago and it came with 10 postcards of some of the pocket watches and wrist watches featured in the book. My wife got them framed for me for Christmas so this is my meagre contribution to this thread whilst I wait for my first pocket watch purchase.



A goal to aim towards maybe lol.
 
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What a wonderful idea, and a wonderful gift! Your wife is a keeper!
 
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What a wonderful idea, and a wonderful gift! Your wife is a keeper!

She might not keep me if she knew how much some of my watches cost... 😁:whipped:
 
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The newest addition to my watch family, the Hamilton 992b, has arrived. However…to my dismay, the crown is a bit “wobbly” and it will not pop upward to allow me to set the time. Nothing of the sort was in the original description (which I posted here as I was investigating to potentially purchase). It was listed as running. I haven’t wound it. I suppose I could wait until a little after 5 this evening and wind it to see…at least the time would be correct. Disappointed, to say the least.
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The newest addition to my watch family, the Hamilton 992b, has arrived. However…to my dismay, the crown is a bit “wobbly” and it will not pop upward to allow me to set the time. Nothing of the sort was in the original description (which I posted here as I was investigating to potentially purchase). It was listed as running. I haven’t wound it. I suppose I could wait until a little after 5 this evening and wind it to see…at least the time would be correct. Disappointed, to say the least.
You should have it serviced anyway, so if you feel the price was right, keep it. Unless you can find a similar one from a trusted source who will confirm it has been serviced.
 
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You should have it serviced anyway, so if you feel the price was right, keep it. Unless you can find a similar one from a trusted source who will confirm it has been serviced.
I’ll have it serviced but I admit that I wanted the instant gratification that I bought a runner. Now I’ll have to find someone to service this and my military Hamilton and wait months.
 
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I’ll have it serviced but I admit that I wanted the instant gratification that I bought a runner. Now I’ll have to find someone to service this and my military Hamilton and wait months.
It’s beautiful though. I have found that when sellers described them as not running they often do, and when described as running, well, there’s usually something that needs fixing. Untested seems to mean stay away! My 2 cents worth.
 
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Isn't your new Hamilton acquisition a lever-set model?

Have you unscrewed the bezel to check for a lever tab that may simply be flicked out with the expeditious use of a right thumb nail. Extended, you may set the time with the crown. Push lever to return it to its seat and replace bezel and your there!
 
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The newest addition to my watch family, the Hamilton 992b, has arrived. However…to my dismay, the crown is a bit “wobbly” and it will not pop upward to allow me to set the time. Nothing of the sort was in the original description (which I posted here as I was investigating to potentially purchase). It was listed as running. I haven’t wound it. I suppose I could wait until a little after 5 this evening and wind it to see…at least the time would be correct. Disappointed, to say the least.

These are indeed lever set models, designed to keep railroad personnel and (first time owners) from accidentally changing the time and causing a cataclysmic accident.
 
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The lever is seen retracted in the small slot cut just above 1 o'clock on this Hamilton I acquired a few weeks back. Yours should be similarly located.


Your new Hamilton is particularly attractive, both dial and case style. It will make you a first rate runner.

I gave a Hamilton 992 to a friend. He had it serviced and has made it his daily watch. He's become very fond of it, shows it off to much admiration all around. He's become a pocket watch good will ambassador in South Lake, Texas.