Calling all Pocket Watch Buffs

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What to do on a day when winter has hit with a vengeance, and there is a 6” accumulation of the stuff that makes Christmas white, and you are recovering from oral surgery the day before? You play with watches like so many others appear to be doing.

How often is it that you pick up a watch you like but know little about, other than it is a Waltham. I acquired this private label 1883 model Waltham about 10 years ago. The movement is engraved Canadian Railway Time Service. 17-jewels, adjusted, stem set, 18-size. In Canada, stem set railroad standard watches were approved by some railroads. Notably, the CPR! This watch s from circa 1900.

Fairly standard stuff, until you get to the dial. This Waltham is a private label for the jeweller, G W Beall, Lindsay. Lindsay? So? Well, Lindsay Ontario. I like Canadian private label watches, a lot! But I was to discover several years ago when I bought the book on the Canadian Watchmaker’s Institute (written by Gary Fox) that operated in Toronto from about 1890 until early in the 20th century, the name Beall appeared in that book. The son of G W Beall was a student at that institute for about two years. He later was to take over the store in Lindsay, founded by his father.

I recall about 40 years ago when I attended my first NAWCC convention in Portland, Ore., you could buy ordinary grade 1883 model Walthams, in Siveroid cases, running, for around $20.00. Or several non runners for about the same price. I became rather ho hum about 1883 model Walthams. But I have come to admire the higher grade 1883 models such as this one.

I like to think that Beall junior may have worked on this watch, or perhaps even sold it! It is displayed on my leather lanyard by @Duracuir.

https://pocketwatchdatabase.com/search/result/waltham/9536515

The G W Beall 1883 Waltham was not a $20.00 special uncovered at an NAWCC mart? Those days of 40 years ago are long since. I bought this one from a brother collector about ten years ago, and I paid 350.00 (Cdn.) for it.
I misread. Apologies.
 
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I misread. Apologies.


No, worries! A recent acquisition (also a Waltham) I bought from a guy who was glad to be rid of it, for $50.00 (Cdn.). My conscience might bother me at $50.00, but he told me he had no sentimental value in it, and he offered it for free, to use for parts! That one is a 13-jewel, model 1877, 18-size Waltham in an exquisite gold filled hunter case. It needed a bunch of parts (all of which I had on hand), and conditioning. I wouldn’t part with that watch for 20 times what I paid for it. So bargains can still be had.
 
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Not long ago I acquired this 18K gold pocket watch, despite having decided a while ago that I would buy no more. I could not resist its excellent condition, engraved gold dial, and pristine movement. Its London hallmarks (and its style) date the 46mm case to 1871. The engraved name is A Myers, who may be a retailer rather than a maker. I find it sad that so many of these old beauties have been scrapped for gold value.

 
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Not long ago I acquired this 18K gold pocket watch, despite having decided a while ago that I would buy no more. I could not resist its excellent condition, engraved gold dial, and pristine movement. Its London hallmarks (and its style) date the 46mm case to 1871. The engraved name is A Myers, who may be a retailer rather than a maker. I find it sad that so many of these old beauties have been scrapped for gold value.


Yours benefits of a high quality movement. Similar case and dial designs often had rather simple movements. Well done!

Here a similar one, hall marked 1860, including original retailers box. The broken seconds hand of the photos has in the meanwhile been replaced by a proper one found in my parts boxes.

Indeed many of these are even today scrapped for their gold cases, a pitty!

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For the Army - Navy game today. Inspired by Alpha… and clip inspired by my friends from Texas (@TexOmega and @noelekal )
My thought when I saw the first photo was that it was a handcuff case.

Very nice if you don't have a watch pocket on your pants or aren't wearing a vest.
 
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Elgin in use today,

 
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For the Army - Navy game today. Inspired by Alpha… and clip inspired by my friends from Texas (@TexOmega and @noelekal )
I lingered on the first pic before scrolling on down. My initial thought was a badge holder for a belt. If you haven’t done one for that purpose, it would make a beauty of one, particularly when not in standard uniform. Mine goes on my belt every day and I’m in jeans and boots most of those. It’s just a standard black holder. Yours would be much better. Beautiful work once again!
 
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Yours benefits of a high quality movement. Similar case and dial designs often had rather simple movements. Well done!

Here a similar one, hall marked 1860, including original retailers box. The broken seconds hand of the photos has in the meanwhile been replaced by a proper one found in my parts boxes.

Indeed many of these are even today scrapped for their gold cases, a pitty!




Beatutifully engraved, and the repousse work around the cartouche is not often seen (by me, in any event.) the watch by DENT. A very prominent name in English watches. I have a few English watches, but nothing so spectacular.
 
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For the Army - Navy game today. Inspired by Alpha… and clip inspired by my friends fr(@TexOmega and @noelekal )
For the Army - Navy game today. Inspired by Alpha… and clip inspired by my friends from Texas (@TexOmega and @noelekal )
I lingered on the first pic before scrolling on down. My initial thought was a badge holder for a belt. If you haven’t done one for that purpose, it would make a beauty of one, particularly when not in standard uniform. Mine goes on my belt every day and I’m in jeans and boots most of those. It’s just a standard black holder. Yours would be much better. Beautiful work once again!
i have made badge holders but this one I made specifically for this watch. I prefer it over the lanyard. @DaveK has made one with an eyelet to attach his lanyards. Show us Dave.
 
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That’s really nice @Duracuir1 ! This has been staring at me on my desk for over a year to finish. Version 2.0 will have a flap instead of a snap closure. I get the shivers thinking I’ll accidentally lean against the snap and crack the crystal. The eyelet you can just barely see is for a thin lanyard to hold onto your watch.

 
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Hey, there’s over 3,200 posts on this thread! Congrats everyone ::psy::
 
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Hey, there’s over 3,200 posts on this thread! Congrats everyone ::psy::


The real tell regarding the popularity of this forum is that there have been more than 131,000 views! We have converted so many folks to collecting pocket watches that it might become more difficult to uncover rare items at bargain prices. Ever the optimist, I keep on looking!
 
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The real tell regarding the popularity of this forum is that there have been more than 131,000 views! We have converted so many folks to collecting pocket watches that it might become more difficult to uncover rare items at bargain prices. Ever the optimist, I keep on looking!
Speaking of potentially rare…this Longines serial number puts it at 1832 from the Pocket Watch Database. Am I reading this right?
 
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The date1832 is someone’s error, not yours! There is no way that watch is that old. The s# list I referred to is in the Shugart, Engel, and Gilbert bible. That table estimates circa 1907-08 which I believe to be closer. Also, the “bible” estimates that Longines s# 1 would have been produced circa 1867. Another list I checked estimated 1910 for the subject watch. In 1832, a vintage watch would likely be a key wind, key set, but the subject watch appears to be stem wound. That, plus I believe that in 1832, Longines was named Agassiz, not Longines.

Auguste Agassiz registered the name Longines in 1889, after the firm moved to the Les Longines area of Switzerland.

This Wikipedia article mentions the founder of the Longines Watch Co., August Agassiz.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agassiz_family#:~:text=Auguste Agassiz moved to the,Ernest Francillon joined the firm.
 
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The date1832 is someone’s error, not yours! There is no way that watch is that old. The s# list I referred to is in the Shugart, Engel, and Gilbert bible. That table estimates circa 1907-08 which I believe to be closer. Also, the “bible” estimates that Longines s# 1 would have been produced circa 1867. Another list I checked estimated 1910 for the subject watch. In 1832, a vintage watch would likely be a key wind, key set, but the subject watch appears to be stem wound. That, plus I believe that in 1832, Longines was named Agassiz, not Longines.

Auguste Agassiz registered the name Longines in 1889, after the firm moved to the Les Longines area of Switzerland.

This Wikipedia article mentions the founder of the Longines Watch Co., August Agassiz.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agassiz_family#:~:text=Auguste Agassiz moved to the,Ernest Francillon joined the firm.
I need to buy that book. Let’s see how close this one is…
 
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The date1832 is someone’s error, not yours! There is no way that watch is that old. The s# list I referred to is in the Shugart, Engel, and Gilbert bible. That table estimates circa 1907-08 which I believe to be closer. Also, the “bible” estimates that Longines s# 1 would have been produced circa 1867. Another list I checked estimated 1910 for the subject watch. In 1832, a vintage watch would likely be a key wind, key set, but the subject watch appears to be stem wound. That, plus I believe that in 1832, Longines was named Agassiz, not Longines.

Auguste Agassiz registered the name Longines in 1889, after the firm moved to the Les Longines area of Switzerland.

This Wikipedia article mentions the founder of the Longines Watch Co., August Agassiz.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agassiz_family#:~:text=Auguste Agassiz moved to the,Ernest Francillon joined the firm.
Always such an amazing source of knowledge.
 
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I need to buy that book. Let’s see how close this one is…


https://pocketwatchdatabase.com/search/result/waltham/5416310

That one is correct. As to buying “that” book, I assume you mean the Shugart book? Now out of print, since about 2018 with the death of the last collector who put the book together. You’ll have to look for back issues. This is a good book to have. The first 100 pages or so are an excellent reference for watch collectors. Valuable information, generally, but prices are of questionable value.
 
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https://pocketwatchdatabase.com/search/result/waltham/5416310

That one is correct. As to buying “that” book, I assume you mean the Shugart book? Now out of print, since about 2018 with the death of the last collector who put the book together. You’ll have to look for back issues. This is a good book to have. The first 100 pages or so are an excellent reference for watch collectors. Valuable information, generally, but prices are of questionable value.
Many thanks!