Cal 561 vs 564 desirability in a 168.005

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kaplan

·Jul 15, 2023

hoipolloi

564= cannon pinion saver.

I was actually thinking of starting a thread recently to gather opinions on upgrading a 561 watch with the quickset mechanism, easy to find 565 donors

 

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hoipolloi

·Jul 15, 2023

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Bergeon will make a tool for just about anything, even turning a simple job into a complex one needing a special tool like this...🙄

You mean you use this?

 

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tamura

·Jul 15, 2023

Are there 168.005/564 Connys with onyx inlays? That would be important to me.

 

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Peemacgee

·Jul 16, 2023·Purrrr-veyor of luxury cat box loungers

tamura

Are there 168.005/564 Connys with onyx inlays? That would be important to me.

Almost certainly (I don't have one to show you so I can't say absolutely - although I'm sure someone will have one)

the 564 was released as early as 65 but lets say it was used in production watches from 66.
There is quite an overlap of the use of 561s and 564s.
Although the exact cut off time for onyx in a 168.005 is somewhat contentious, it was no earlier than say 67 (IIRC there have been uncommon examples later than that - which is why I say the cut off time is contentious )

 

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JimInOz

·Jul 16, 2023·Melbourne Australia

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Bergeon will make a tool for just about anything, even turning a simple job into a complex one needing a special tool like this...🙄

So you reckon I don't really need one of these 😉.

 

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Archer

·Jul 16, 2023

hoipolloi

You mean you use this?

No, like most watchmakers I use a tool already at my bench...a staking set.

 

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Archer

·Jul 16, 2023

JimInOz

So you reckon I don't really need one of these 😉.

 

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TIMElyBehaviour

·Jul 16, 2023

dsio

The real quickset is Cal 551, laziness maximised

I was thinking more 70’s with the 1011. Bi directional quickset. Epitome of lazy with style.

 

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norb1967

·Jul 16, 2023

tamura

Are there 168.005/564 Connys with onyx inlays? That would be important to me.

Absolutely there are.

 

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dsio

·Jul 16, 2023·Ash @ ΩF

TIMElyBehaviour

I was thinking more 70’s with the 1011. Bi directional quickset. Epitome of lazy with style.

I’m a fan of those for sure great and under appreciated watches

 

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spacemission

·Jul 16, 2023

TIMElyBehaviour

I was thinking more 70’s with the 1011. Bi directional quickset. Epitome of lazy with style.

I like the 1002. It's a real robust calibre.

 

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TIMElyBehaviour

·Jul 16, 2023

A real pain in the rump quick set is the tissot 2481/omega 1481. It’s the one where you have to depress the crown like a button to get it to change. They get stuck quite frequently.