Breaking News: The New Steel Speedmaster With Caliber 321 “Ed White”

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First, the initial push of the starter (ie from 12 up) is far more firm than any subsequent pause/start push.

This is true for most chronographs. The reason is that you are moving the hammer out of the way, in addition to turning the column wheel, and moving the coupling yoke in. When you turn the chronograph off, you are just moving the coupling yoke out, and moving the brake in, plus turning the column wheel. When you reset, you are releasing the hammer for the seconds/minutes, which is spring loaded come down on the cams to reset those hands. But on the dial side, you are resetting the hour counter and the pusher directly moves the hammer there, so they will all feel different.
 
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For mine, and forgive the bizarre attempt at explaining via writing the feel of a chrono pusher:

First, the initial push of the starter (ie from 12 up) is far more firm than any subsequent pause/start push. The initial push feels comparatively resistant to any subsequent pause/start push. Also, the initial push engages with a crisp but still more subtle and more baritone click near the very bottom of the pusher action, while a subsequent pause/start push is a less subtle and a bit more tenor and nearer the middle of the pusher action. That initial push I suppose I could see someone describing as ‘mushy’ but really hard for me to say what descriptor is intended to convey in your mind; but no doubt the initial push off 12 up is a different, firmer, later-stage engagement than any subsequent pause/start of the chrono on its way around the dial.

Second, the starter pusher feel described above (of any push variety) is decidedly different from the feel of the return pusher. The later, return, pusher has a bit more of a crunchy, mid-action, feel like that of almost any return pusher I might imagine.


This all separate from your friend’s seeming to not start or some other obviously incorrect performance.
Yep, this mirrors my experience. You do have to give it a shove once it’s been pushed in to get it going.
 
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I've had many column wheel chronographs of many brands over the years and they all have a feel of their own. An El Primero is quite crisp, others like the Frederic Piguet tend to be softer. The feel depends on their design, how they were set up and how long since they were last worked on. The new 321 has a softer touch than an 1861, but I wouldn't call it mushy. Side by side to my Daytona they have a very similar feel. I can't get too excited about the feel of the chrono push buttons, they all work as intended.
 
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I’m interested if any members continue to await NEW321 orders, with deposits (full or partial) since release?

On the point of manufacturing numbers, one member recently did a tour of the 321 atelier and was told they are making more-or-less 1000 321s per year, with ~200 of those going in precious metal models

I'm still waiting after having paid in full (less sales tax) a year ago.

My wrist, but not . . .



. . . my Ed White. Photo taken last year at the LA OB. This EW belonged to another client who was scheduled to pick it up the next day.
 
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I’m interested if any members continue to await NEW321 orders, with deposits (full or partial) since release?

On the point of manufacturing numbers, one member recently did a tour of the 321 atelier and was told they are making more-or-less 1000 321s per year, with ~200 of those going in precious metal models[/QUOT
I’m interested if any members continue to await NEW321 orders, with deposits (full or partial) since release?

On the point of manufacturing numbers, one member recently did a tour of the 321 atelier and was told they are making more-or-less 1000 321s per year, with ~200 of those going in precious metal models


Still waiting for mine since the watch was launched
 
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I’m interested if any members continue to await NEW321 orders, with deposits (full or partial) since release?

On the point of manufacturing numbers, one member recently did a tour of the 321 atelier and was told they are making more-or-less 1000 321s per year, with ~200 of those going in precious metal models
If the EW steel production is ~800 pieces a year the EW is going to be in extremely short supply for the foreseeable future (years), even if Omega can up the production to the 2,000/yr mark they were talking about originally.

I think the steel EW is one of those watches where you really have to consider going grey market if you really want one, they sell at a premium but it's not a Daytona-like premium at this point. I managed to get a BNIB EW two months ago at a net premium of 23% which I did not consider excessive. I'm not one of those people who refuses to pay the market price for a watch, I'll assess if it is reasonable and make my decision accordingly. I'm very happy with the watch, the fit and finish and presence on the wrist is a cut above the standard 1861/3861. Pictures really don't do it justice.
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I managed to get a BNIB EW two months ago at a net premium of 23% which I did not consider excessive. I'm not one of those people who refuses to pay the market price for a watch, I'll assess if it is reasonable and make my decision accordingly. I'm very happy with the watch, the fit and finish and presence on the wrist is a cut above the standard 1861/3861. Pictures really don't do it justice.

Agree that a ~23% premium, for this watch, is still a damn good buy for anyone who wants and “gets” this rare watch.

Paying a bit of a second and premium for it is nothing at all like the ~100% premium on a Submariner being made by the tens of thousands.
 
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If the EW steel production is ~800 pieces a year the EW is going to be in extremely short supply for the foreseeable future (years), even if Omega can up the production to the 2,000/yr mark they were talking about originally.

I think the steel EW is one of those watches where you really have to consider going grey market if you really want one, they sell at a premium but it's not a Daytona-like premium at this point. I managed to get a BNIB EW two months ago at a net premium of 23% which I did not consider excessive. I'm not one of those people who refuses to pay the market price for a watch, I'll assess if it is reasonable and make my decision accordingly. I'm very happy with the watch, the fit and finish and presence on the wrist is a cut above the standard 1861/3861. Pictures really don't do it justice.
I completely agree. I considered paying £14k against the 12k list price here in the U.K a year and a half back (and got flamed by someone for saying so). They are higher now, but I still think the premium is doable if you are in the market for one and search about a bit.
 
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And your photos most definitely do it justice! It’s a while (20 years) since I tried to read music but that looks hard!
 
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And your photos most definitely do it justice! It’s a while (20 years) since I tried to read music but that looks hard!

Thanks so much - the music is something my kids are learning (much better than I can do!)
 
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Yeah, wondering how bad the sapphire halo will be in person (ie, not in a promo photo).

They really reduced the sapphire halo on this when compared to the sapphire sandwich Speedmaster.
 
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After three months of ownership and always winding the watch every morning, and wearing it about 50% of the time, I let it run down over the weekend because I'm going on vacation and it's not coming along, so all watches got bundled into the safe deposit box this morning. Power reserve on the NEW321 is advertised as 50 hours but the watch ran exactly 63 hours, a good power reserve. That's similar to what the new 3861 gets so Omega must be doing some tricks with the mainspring to get extended power reserve over the standard 1861 movement which always run about 51 hours for me. An extra 20-25% run time is a good thing to have.
 
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...Power reserve on the NEW321 is advertised as 50 hours but the watch ran exactly 63 hours, a good power reserve. That's similar to what the new 3861 gets so Omega must be doing some tricks with the mainspring to get extended power reserve...
That sounds about right as long as we keep in mind that for any (mechancial) movement, the stated PR is always less than actual results because a movement's accuracy tends to drop out during the last ~10% of actual PR.

As for Omega upgrading the original 321, I recall the press writing about it - at least I hope they did as I wrote this in my "Pictorial":

...The technical evolution of the Speedmaster is clearly through the 3861 which is now used for all current production Speedmasters. The point being that Omega re-introduced the 321 for fans of vintage Speedmasters and their iconic movements. Having said that, it should be noted that Omega did manage a few small upgrades to the 321, like an improved mainspring bringing the power reserve up to 55hrs from the original 321's (& 861/1861) ~45hrs. The movement's plates & bridges have a Sedna-gold PVD finish as well as the clutch-lever bridge being in silver. We can also assume the Breguet hairspring has been brought up to date, material-wise...
 
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After three months of ownership and always winding the watch every morning, and wearing it about 50% of the time, I let it run down over the weekend because I'm going on vacation and it's not coming along, so all watches got bundled into the safe deposit box this morning. Power reserve on the NEW321 is advertised as 50 hours but the watch ran exactly 63 hours, a good power reserve. That's similar to what the new 3861 gets so Omega must be doing some tricks with the mainspring to get extended power reserve over the standard 1861 movement which always run about 51 hours for me. An extra 20-25% run time is a good thing to have.

No tricks, just a longer spring.