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While not really a VW guy, about ten years ago I was looking for a nice sporty car, and I was tossing up between an Evo or an STi. A good friend of mine suggested I look at the Passat R36, which I'd never even heard of. He reasoned it suited my personality better. Not only was he right and I ended up buying it, he was so incredibly right I still daily it today. I've put well over 100,000 kms on it and I can't find anything I honestly want to replace it with. (That I can afford. If I could afford a Porsche, different story. 😜)
That's a sweet ride indeed! I can understand your dilemma, I found myself in a similar one not too long ago.
I'd been driving GTI's for years, and my most recent one had just clicked over 110k and 10 years of age.
Tried to figure out for years prior, what I would replace it with - but never really could, which meant I had no reason to get rid of it.
Till one day I was at the VW dealership and they just had the perfect spec Golf R on the floor and I figured that was about as good of a replacement as I could get, and I couldn't help myself hah.
Because yes, Panamera/Taycan and RS6 wagons are a little too much $$$ for me. Except those Taycans really are suffering from a tad bit of depriciation....
 
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That's a sweet ride indeed! I can understand your dilemma, I found myself in a similar one not too long ago.
I'd been driving GTI's for years, and my most recent one had just clicked over 110k and 10 years of age.
Tried to figure out for years prior, what I would replace it with - but never really could, which meant I had no reason to get rid of it.
Till one day I was at the VW dealership and they just had the perfect spec Golf R on the floor and I figured that was about as good of a replacement as I could get, and I couldn't help myself hah.
Because yes, Panamera/Taycan and RS6 wagons are a little too much $$$ for me. Except those Taycans really are suffering from a tad bit of depriciation....

With you on the RS6, absolute dream daily driver. Part of what drew me to the R36 wagon originally is it was like a baby RS6 style wise, at the time the RS6 was the C6 generation and they both had a very rounded off front with a big one piece grill, aluminium trims (My roof racks are solid polished alu, unusually high end for VW) and squared off headlights.



The current RS6 looks way, way more aggressive. There's a current gen one in my area, it looks unbelievable.
 
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In the late 80's through mid 90's, I was Saab 900 all the way. Loved the way they drive. Quirky reverse engine. Constantly replacing wheel bearings, axle boots, main seals, ignition switches, water pumps, headliners, etc. Did I mention the transmissions were soft? What was I thinking?
Purchased my first Toyota 4runner and never looked back. Owned 4 since. Drove all of them over 250K miles with zero problems. Shocks? never. Water pump? never. Bullet proof.
 
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Every time I buy a new vehicle, I look around, and always end up sticking with Toyota.
I was going to say Toyota too, once I could afford one. First an Echo, then a Corolla, Camry hybrid, RAV4 and as of two months ago, another RAV4. Our daughter has a hybrid RAV4 so it’s carrying on for another generation.
 
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Oddly enough, the only brand loyalty I can think of concerns eyeglasses. Over the past 15 to 20 years I have always gone with Shuron, an American brand that was established in 1865!
 
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In the late 80's through mid 90's, I was Saab 900 all the way. Loved the way they drive. Quirky reverse engine. Constantly replacing wheel bearings, axle boots, main seals, ignition switches, water pumps, headliners, etc. Did I mention the transmissions were soft? What was I thinking?
Purchased my first Toyota 4runner and never looked back. Owned 4 since. Drove all of them over 250K miles with zero problems. Shocks? never. Water pump? never. Bullet proof.
That is brand dedication! I have had a soft spot for Saab vehicles ever since in the 1970s seeing the odd Alaska plated one drive through our northern town in the Yukon on their way to the lower 48. Saab Sonnet 4, very sporty and tiny, other models too. I particularly love the 1960s models, quirky design, underpowered but they invoke images of how well the cars performed on the professional rally series.
 
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I was going to say Toyota too, once I could afford one. First an Echo, then a Corolla, Camry hybrid, RAV4 and as of two months ago, another RAV4. Our daughter has a hybrid RAV4 so it’s carrying on for another generation.
I need a vehicle with decent off-road capability, and I don't want a pick-up, so my options are limited. 4Runners have been the perfect compromise for me, although the new Landcruiser will be a consideration for my next purchase. My wife just got the Landcruiser.
 
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Another vote for Toyota here. I purchased my 2005 Corolla for £1200 seven years ago. I still drive it daily and at 150,000 miles it's probably good for awhile yet. My wife has just bought a 2012 Verso and that too is a well built car.
 
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Thats a good one! My mate and I have an never ending argument about Saab and Volvo. (Saab makes fighter planes, Volvo makes dump trucks...)
I have driven Saabs too, a 99 and a 900.
Yup, Saab used Triumph engines in the 99 onwards.
Saab’s fighter planes have… Volvo engines.
 
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Saab’s fighter planes have… Volvo engines.
Wow ! You are right, even if the Volvo RM12 engine is a version of a GE engine. Thanks a lot I will be sure to let my Saab loving friend know 😀
 
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I bought my 6th pair of Loake boots this week and I'm expecting them to be delivered any time now.
I expect them all to outlive me 👍
 
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I bought my 6th pair of Loake boots this week and I'm expecting them to be delivered any time now.
I expect them all to outlive me 👍

The funny thing about this is since your reply on page 1 where I mentioned I had eight pairs of RMs and you had five Loakes then, I too have since acquired another pair of RMs haha. I'm pretty done now though, it's hard to see what base I don't have covered. I was just missing a black work chelsea, picked up their recently updated black oiled kip leather Gardener in a good sale last month. I have a similar vintage brown oiled nubuck "crazy horse" pair as well, discontinued now.



Those Loakes look really good, I'm a sucker for a storm welted commando sole and that stitching pattern is pretty unique. Goodyear welted lace up boots are quite rare here in Australia, you see modern safety boots on work sites but otherwise for higher end boots, chelseas are dominant. I do have a couple pairs though.

 
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The funny thing about this is since your reply on page 1 where I mentioned I had eight pairs of RMs and you had five Loakes then, I too have since acquired another pair of RMs haha. I'm pretty done now though, it's hard to see what base I don't have covered. I was just missing a black work chelsea, picked up their recently updated black oiled kip leather Gardener in a good sale last month. I have a similar vintage brown oiled nubuck "crazy horse" pair as well, discontinued now.



Those Loakes look really good. Goodyear welted lace up boots are quite rare here in Australia, you see modern safety boots on work sites but otherwise for higher end boots, chelseas are dominant. I do have a couple pairs though.
I like those crazy horse boots 👍

The boots have just arrived so I'll be wearing them later.

I like Chelsea boots, the black ones I have very comfortable.

Looks like you enjoy polishing yours as much as I do 😀
 
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I like those crazy horse boots 👍

The boots have just arrived so I'll be wearing them later.

I like Chelsea boots, the black ones I have very comfortable.

Looks like you enjoy polishing yours as much as I do 😀

Haha, actually, I'm not a big fan of it! I only polish my dress boots, black kangaroo and dark tan yearling (slightly older than calf) Craftsmans. The rest of my boots are suedes or oiled leathers. Those lace ups are Horween Chromexcel, an oily aniline pull-up leather. The oily finish brings a shine without waxes.

At some point in the future I'd like a cap toe lace-up service boot, similar to your Loakes, in a black roughout. There's a company in Australia called Wootten, the only other notable bootmaker still manufacturing here besides RM, but they're much smaller and hand make everything customised to order. I'd love to spec something with them one day, I'd say they're at least on par with Viberg if not higher quality - but they're also bloody expensive. RM make 500k to a million pairs a year, Wootten complete something like a pair or two a day.



Maybe we need a Goodyear welted thread here. 😜
 
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The funny thing about this is since your reply on page 1 where I mentioned I had eight pairs of RMs and you had five Loakes then, I too have since acquired another pair of RMs haha. I'm pretty done now though, it's hard to see what base I don't have covered. I was just missing a black work chelsea, picked up their recently updated black oiled kip leather Gardener in a good sale last month. I have a similar vintage brown oiled nubuck "crazy horse" pair as well, discontinued now.



Those Loakes look really good. Goodyear welted lace up boots are quite rare here in Australia, you see modern safety boots on work sites but otherwise for higher end boots, chelseas are dominant. I do have a couple pairs though.
I like those crazy horse boots 👍

I haven't got one single pair of shoes.

Haha, actually, I'm not a big fan of it! I only polish my dress boots, black kangaroo and dark tan yearling (slightly older than calf) Craftsmans. The rest of my boots are suedes or oiled leathers. Those lace ups are Horween Chromexcel, an oily aniline pull-up leather. The oily finish brings a shine without waxes.

At some point in the future I'd like a cap toe lace-up service boot, similar to your Loakes, in a black roughout. There's a company in Australia called Wootten, the only other notable bootmaker still manufacturing here besides RM, but they're much smaller and hand make everything customised to order. I'd love to spec something with them one day, I'd say they're at least on par with Viberg if not higher quality - but they're also bloody expensive. RM make 500k to a million pairs a year, Wootten complete something like a pair or two a day.



Maybe we need a Goodyear welted thread here. 😜
Have you had any of your Goodyear welted soles replaced ?
My newest Chelsea boots doing and the pair that arrived today have the same soles.
The black Chelsea boots are waxy so just a rub with some Loake wax and they're good to go and they feel lovely.
Which firms make boots in Oz, there aren't many here ?
 
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I haven't got one single pair of shoes.

I have no shoes shoes, but plenty of sneakers. Dress chelseas are often worn formally here, I've heard Texas has a similar thing with cowboy boots and suits.

Have you had any of your Goodyear welted soles replaced ?

Yeah in the past, but these days with a bit of a collection and working from home more, no single pair is getting enough wear to require replacing. The lace-ups are British Itshide Commando soles, the chelseas are RM's proprietary Longhorn brand, very durable. I wear my Gardeners the most but the rubber treaded soles on those are over a centimetre thick, not wearing through them in a hurry.

Which firms make boots in Oz, there aren't many here ?

At the higher end, just the ones I mentioned; R.M. and Wootten. At the lower end a couple of the work boot brands still make work chelseas here, the only one I remember still manufacturing here is Redback. Most non-Aussies know Blundstone, but they haven't been made on shore in a while.
 
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I bought my 6th pair of Loake boots this week and I'm expecting them to be delivered any time now.
I expect them all to outlive me 👍


I have had many pairs of Goodyear welted shoes over the years and for awhile did a bit of dealing in second hand pairs I'd find in the charity shops of Chelsea and Fulham. Edward Green, John Lobb, Chesney etc I've owned them all and Loake are a good entry level into the world of English bench made shoes. Below a nice pair of Oxblood brogues i picked up fairly recently .
 
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I have had many pairs of Goodyear welted shoes over the years and for awhile did a bit of dealing in second hand pairs I'd find in the charity shops of Chelsea and Fulham. Edward Green, John Lobb, Chesney etc I've owned them all and Loake are a good entry level into the world of English bench made shoes. Below a nice pair of Oxblood brogues i picked up fairly recently .
 
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I have no shoes shoes, but plenty of sneakers. Dress chelseas are often worn formally here, I've heard Texas has a similar thing with cowboy boots and suits.



Yeah in the past, but these days with a bit of a collection and working from home more, no single pair is getting enough wear to require replacing. The lace-ups are British Itshide Commando soles, the chelseas are RM's proprietary Longhorn brand, very durable. I wear my Gardeners the most but the rubber treaded soles on those are over a centimetre thick, not wearing through them in a hurry.



At the higher end, just the ones I mentioned; R.M. and Wootten. At the lower end a couple of the work boot brands still make work chelseas here, the only one I remember still manufacturing here is Redback. Most non-Aussies know Blundstone, but they haven't been made on shore in a while.
Of the 6 pairs of Loakes, the 1st 3 pairs have been made in the UK, the others made in India.

The latter 2 have the same spongy sole and are really comfortable but the soles won't last long.
My new ones felt great yesterday and the polished uppers looked great
 
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Would they have been classed as "Royals" back in the early 70's ?
I had a brown pair in those days and unusually for teenage fashions, they were hard wearing.
The plain ones that the teachers all seemed to wear were "Comos"