Best packing and shipping practices?

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It would be ticking but for the hairspring. I have most of the missing parts.

No real point in returning this. I left feedback (positive) stating Caveat Emptor. Most feedback was how fast items were shipped. Too fast in this case. Even asking for a discount would be crass. I made an offer and it was accepted. No where in the listing said the balance was good. Since balance was out of the watch in the listing, I figured the pivots were broken.

I once got a camera sent the same way no padding stuffed in a mailer. Bottom was split out. Seller indicated they were new. Was a parts camera anyway.

I noticed eBay dropped the shipping feedback (other than time) probably to many did low ratings. Or else one has to wait seven days to rate the shipping. Feedback is meaningless anyway. Bad feedback just pisses people off. No one reads it. Most of the time I do not bother. Many of the sellers I like and repeatedly use have 99% feedback anyway. It is the 100 percenters who game the system and like to complain.

I think free shipping automatically gives the seller five stars for shipping. I don't get much from eBay these days and I don't leave feedback unless it's really bad, exceptionally good and pleasant, or I'm ecstatic with the deal. Thing is, sellers don't tend to leave any buyer feedback any more so it's one-sided. eBay will harass you to leave feedback for a seller, but apparently sellers don't get the same treatment. Sellers routinely ask for negative feedback or ratings to be removed and eBay does so frequently, in my experience. It's just a sign of how corrupt eBay has become. They don't care.
 
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Greetings all,
I very seldom sell watches and for the first time have sold two watches outside of the European Union.

I have pondered at length about each step of the packing process- being most nervous about potential thefts on the part of people reading contents on a customs form.
I have opted for a truthful but obtuse description that doesn’t use the word “watch”. (Similar to what’s recommended by Parcel Pro, unfortunately unavailable in certain locations, and not cost effective for watches whose under 500 euros).

Anyhow, what is in your opinion the best way to pack a watch to minimize risks of theft?

I used to think a padded jiffy envelope surrounded by lots of tape, glue, staples would be more unobtrusive and deter curiosity— a bit like an old bike with a very big lock would make it inefficient to attack.
One of our good members here who has extensive experience shipping watches opined that a box is better because it cannot be made to tear « accidentally ».

If so, a small box or a larger box? I seem to recall people recommending a larger box (shoe box size or larger) because it’s harder to hide away or suspect what’s inside.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and advice,
Best regards
 
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Double box, tight bubble wrap packing. Instructions and label on both boxes.
 
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Greetings all,
I very seldom sell watches and for the first time have sold two watches outside of the European Union.

I have pondered at length about each step of the packing process- being most nervous about potential thefts on the part of people reading contents on a customs form.
I have opted for a truthful but obtuse description that doesn’t use the word “watch”. (Similar to what’s recommended by Parcel Pro, unfortunately unavailable in certain locations, and not cost effective for watches whose under 500 euros).

Anyhow, what is in your opinion the best way to pack a watch to minimize risks of theft?

I used to think a padded jiffy envelope surrounded by lots of tape, glue, staples would be more unobtrusive and deter curiosity— a bit like an old bike with a very big lock would make it inefficient to attack.
One of our good members here who has extensive experience shipping watches opined that a box is better because it cannot be made to tear « accidentally ».

If so, a small box or a larger box? I seem to recall people recommending a larger box (shoe box size or larger) because it’s harder to hide away or suspect what’s inside.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and advice,
Best regards
Thanks for this thread. I am about to post my first watch on the forum.

Honestly I am a bit nervous - packing, shipping, etc. Also, I wonder if people service watches before selling them. What checks are usually done to verify the watch is working correctly.
 
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You should ask your watch maker to check the watch if you want to check it. He /she will use a timeographer and can perhaps improve regulation for a small fee.
You should also ask him/ her to teach you how to test your own watch- that takes a week or two if you don’t own a timeographer.
Usually people do not service a watch before sale, unless you know the watch is really weak and you have a good watchmaker that performs services at a very competitive price.
I’d be glad to buy a serviced watch from a trusted collector in a country where service is much cheaper than Western Europe/ UK/ US- but if you’re a newbie you’re better off not servicing a watch. Also depends on the watch and its value. A collector buying an expensive watch usually prefers his or her own watchmaker to deal with it.
 
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Greetings all,
I very seldom sell watches and for the first time have sold two watches outside of the European Union.

I have pondered at length about each step of the packing process- being most nervous about potential thefts on the part of people reading contents on a customs form.
I have opted for a truthful but obtuse description that doesn’t use the word “watch”. (Similar to what’s recommended by Parcel Pro, unfortunately unavailable in certain locations, and not cost effective for watches whose under 500 euros).

Anyhow, what is in your opinion the best way to pack a watch to minimize risks of theft?

I used to think a padded jiffy envelope surrounded by lots of tape, glue, staples would be more unobtrusive and deter curiosity— a bit like an old bike with a very big lock would make it inefficient to attack.
One of our good members here who has extensive experience shipping watches opined that a box is better because it cannot be made to tear « accidentally ».

If so, a small box or a larger box? I seem to recall people recommending a larger box (shoe box size or larger) because it’s harder to hide away or suspect what’s inside.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and advice,
Best regards
Double box, bubblewrap watch box and inner box, put shipping label on innerbox and outer box and suggest hold for pickup at hub for safety and security, also because person picking up needs to show ID.
 
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Double box, bubblewrap watch box and inner box, put shipping label on innerbox and outer box and suggest hold for pickup at hub for safety and security, also because person picking up needs to show ID.
Also video record yourself Packaging the item and showing watch before placing in box.
 
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I've shipped watches internationally a few times, and I’ve found that using a small, sturdy box is the way to go. I used to use padded envelopes, but they seemed a bit risky. A box just feels more secure and less likely to get damaged. Wrap the watch well in bubble wrap or foam to keep it safe inside. As for labeling, I’d avoid calling it a "watch"—something like "electronic accessory" works better and keeps things vague. I’ve also found that a medium-sized box is usually best; it’s big enough to be noticeable but not too obvious.
 
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I've shipped watches internationally a few times, and I’ve found that using a small, sturdy box is the way to go. I used to use padded envelopes, but they seemed a bit risky. A box just feels more secure and less likely to get damaged. Wrap the watch well in bubble wrap or foam to keep it safe inside. As for labeling, I’d avoid calling it a "watch"—something like "electronic accessory" works better and keeps things vague. I’ve also found that a medium-sized box is usually best; it’s big enough to be noticeable but not too obvious.
Wouldn't you need to declare it's a watch for insurance purposes? And also in case it's a foreign country with customs...

I once received a watch from eBay that came as "fashion accessory", but at least it was in a box in a box with tons of padding.

As for envelopes, I've also received a few watches like that, as well as tiny paper boxes. I hate those too.
 
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I have a strange situation, looking for some OF forum advice.

I won an eBay auction. The seller prepared the label on 8/25 with USPS and shipped the watch on 8/26. Tracking said delivery 8/29. All was normal until USPS started ping ponging the package between 2 regional centers. It finally landed in one 11 miles away which is correct, on 8/27. It remained In Transit then to the next processing center, which should be mine, until this morning, 8/30, and now it reads back at the sellers post office and says Preparing for Delivery and Expected Delivery today 8/30, with the Sellers Post Office listed.

I’ve messaged the seller through eBay, asking if they can see the tracking, to suggest it may be delivered back to them today. That’s what the USPS says it’s going to do. Deliver it to the seller. If they do that, should I ever accept this watch? I have no idea what is going on.
 
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Par for the course with USPS. Same situation has happened to me several times. If the watch was packed well it will survive.
 
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I watched one of those anti-scammer videos on YouTube, and the anti-scammer-dude shipped his package with an AirTag inside so he could track it. For shipping watches where the cost of this is worth it, maybe an AirTag in the box would be a valuable tool in case the shippers tracking info isn’t sufficient. You could include a return addressed envelope to get it back, assuming, ethically, that everything is agreed upon up front and the AirTag is deemed mutually convenient.

On the downside, if someone ships you a hidden AirTag, they’ll know where you live (vs work address or rented mailbox, like I have) and that could be pretty scary info to have in the wrong hands. Say you buy and receive a legit watch on eBay or chrono24, maybe you’ve discussed your collection with the seller and now they know what you have and where it is.

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I recently came across these plastic shipping containers with a two section Styrofoam insert. They run about $5.50 USD on eBay.
 
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I recently came across these plastic shipping containers with a two section Styrofoam insert. They run about $5.50 USD on eBay.
I get many watches sent to me for servicing in these, and they appear to work well.
 
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I recently came across these plastic shipping containers with a two section Styrofoam insert. They run about $5.50 USD on eBay.
I received a watch in trade in one and I like it. I've sent two watches for service and repair in it and got it back both times.
 
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Also video record yourself Packaging the item and showing watch before placing in box.
Very underrated comment, here.

Anyone who's sold or shipped a lot of watches knows that people will damage the watch by mishandling / dropping it, or not winding it properly, as soon as it arrives. Then, often times, they'll claim the watch was damaged en route...

Without video of the watch being packaged and it's condition it's their word over yours.
 
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I received a watch bracelet from the US to my home in Canada yesterday. The amount declared for duty was $208 CAD, the amount that UPS charged for brokerage fees was $108. $108!!! I'm writing while on hold, interspersed with a garbled phone call with customer services, for half an hour now (sorry boss!), but got my call escalated and will be receiving $24.32 back from their excessive fees. I probably could have pushed for more, but one must weigh the time spent on the phone.

Apparently, UPS ground shipments are subject to higher clearance fees than air shipments. The moral of the story is that I'll use USPS or Canada Post whenever possible, especially for lower value items. Rarely do they charge duty, and never made up and excessive "brokerage" fees.
 
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I received a watch bracelet from the US to my home in Canada yesterday. The amount declared for duty was $208 CAD, the amount that UPS charged for brokerage fees was $108. $108!!! I'm writing while on hold, interspersed with a garbled phone call with customer services, for half an hour now (sorry boss!), but got my call escalated and will be receiving $24.32 back from their excessive fees. I probably could have pushed for more, but one must weigh the time spent on the phone.

Apparently, UPS ground shipments are subject to higher clearance fees than air shipments. The moral of the story is that I'll use USPS or Canada Post whenever possible, especially for lower value items. Rarely do they charge duty, and never made up and excessive "brokerage" fees.
Both FedEx and UPS ground are more than their express counterparts in my experience.