Berthouds for Sale

Hey guys!

These two Berthoud Geneve watches are being sold by the same guy over at CT.
http://www.chronocentric.com/forums/chronotrader/index.cgi?page=1;md=read;id=66895
http://www.chronocentric.com/forums/chronotrader/index.cgi?page=1;md=read;id=66901

Here are some pics:


The one that looks like a Polerouter emulates the lugs and dial but supposedly has an ETA movement? I contacted the seller and asked for a pic of the movement of the "Pole" and here's what he sent:

What was the deal with these watches? The Berthoud chronos featured here have the Cal 385, which was still UG supplied. But these two watches are fitted with something else (I assume the sub has a non UG movement). So did Berthoud spin off as an indie company?

Looks like it is an ETA 2472:

http://www.ranfft.de/cgi-bin/bidfun-db.cgi?10&ranfft&&2uswk&ETA_2472

900$ for a POLEROUTER look a like.

Sorry to diverge from your question.

I know, right!?

@Diabolik and myself have real ones for sale for much cheaper. 😗

Splendor and decadence of a brand

The first one shares some design cues with a Repco I once owned (shown below):

Oh, I didn't know you sold this?! I would have loved to own this.