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Joe_A
·considering some of the replies (and the tone of them) you are probably right.
My mistake starting this thread and trying to slightly contribute to the forum
Have a nice evening
All you needed to do to actually help others is to place the link to the discussion you discovered in your initial post.
Members here would then learn something of value, or else judge for themselves whether the warning was warranted.
Merely telling people to be sure to carry an umbrella on a rainy day . . . is not being all that helpful, is it?
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BlackTalon
··This Space for RentAlso thread is useless without knowing who the 'trusted seller' is -- times I have seen this happen before was when the 'trusted seller' really wasn't someone most forum members trusted.
But seriously, without photos of the watches in question there is no way to know how 'good' the fakes really were. many come to OF posting pics of watches they think are very good fakes yet many can immediately pick up a lot of things that are immediate tells.
Facts go a long way on OF, and vague 'recommendations' don't help much.
But seriously, without photos of the watches in question there is no way to know how 'good' the fakes really were. many come to OF posting pics of watches they think are very good fakes yet many can immediately pick up a lot of things that are immediate tells.
Facts go a long way on OF, and vague 'recommendations' don't help much.
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rcs914
·considering some of the replies (and the tone of them) you are probably right.
My mistake starting this thread and trying to slightly contribute to the forum
Have a nice evening
You are getting snark, because while you post may be well intentioned, it is not at all helpful without specifics. Excellent fakes have been common for a while now in general, so without a link to the discussion, you might as well be announcing "The sky appears blue, water feels wet on your skin, and sugar is sweet".
Helpful: "Hey guys, over on Rolex Forums there was discussion about how there are new 5513 fakes that are essentially indistinguishable from actual vintage, other than the fact that they are almost too good. Here's a link, but you will have to register to see the pictures".
Not helpful: "On another forum there was a discussion about some really good fakes that are out there so be careful"
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JwRosenthal
·We have discussions on Speedmaster vs. Pubes and code brown in two days- I would say these threads are very useful.
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mr_yossarian
·considering some of the replies (and the tone of them) you are probably right.
My mistake starting this thread and trying to slightly contribute to the forum
Have a nice evening
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STANDY
··schizophrenic pizza orderer and watch collector
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Tony
·This thread does beg the question: when buying a "pre-owned" watch online, how can you really be sure the item is genuine? Sure, if you buy through ebay, they will supposedly guarantee its authenticity, but wouldn't you have to take it to a watchmaker/jeweler to make sure?
All of this is supposing that those fakes out there really are that good.
All of this is supposing that those fakes out there really are that good.
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JwRosenthal
·T TonyThis thread does beg the question: when buying a "pre-owned" watch online, how can you rely be sure the item is genuine? Sure, if you buy through ebay, they will supposedly guarantee its authenticity, but wouldn't you have to take it to a watchmaker/jeweler to make sure?
All of this is supposing that those fakes out there really are that good.
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UncleBuck
··understands the decision making hierarchyT TonyThis thread does beg the question: when buying a "pre-owned" watch online, how can you rely be sure the item is genuine? Sure, if you buy through ebay, they will supposedly guarantee its authenticity, but wouldn't you have to take it to a watchmaker/jeweler to make sure?
All of this is supposing that those fakes out there really are that good.
Damn, Tony, finally a good bit in this meandering thread!
You can only count on ebay and even some watchmakers to a certain level.
Your question is the basis for the oft-mentioned advice to visit here often, study, ask questions and seek help before attempting to buy.
Get to know the members and their strengths, cordially ask questions, find a mentor in your field of interest and develop a trust.
They know the fakes and the real McCoy's and happily can save your bacon.
All easily doable for free with the avid cadre of world-class collectors here.
They will help, advise and guide as long as you are sincere, honest and respectful.
The caveat.......it takes some time to do it well. You can't learn years of horology in a few minutes.
Ok, another piece of advice for you and the OP, post lots of pictures!
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bags1971
·Story of being careful
Was shown this yesterday
This was brought in by a customer to a friend who works at a AD he said he was pretty please with himself as he had been waiting for one for ages. Swopped it for £8,000 worth of gold
They are Rolex accredited service center and Ill let you imagine how the guy felt when he left and he didn't take the watch with him
Was shown this yesterday
This was brought in by a customer to a friend who works at a AD he said he was pretty please with himself as he had been waiting for one for ages. Swopped it for £8,000 worth of gold
They are Rolex accredited service center and Ill let you imagine how the guy felt when he left and he didn't take the watch with him
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Stufflers Mom
·Sounds more like a story of being too stupid to have £8k worth of gold in the first place.
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dennisthemenace
·Original post was on WUS Omega fakebuster section
It was started by a well known member here.
It was started by a well known member here.
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asrnj77
·Story of being careful
Was shown this yesterday
This was brought in by a customer to a friend who works at a AD he said he was pretty please with himself as he had been waiting for one for ages. Swopped it for £8,000 worth of gold
They are Rolex accredited service center and Ill let you imagine how the guy felt when he left and he didn't take the watch with him
I get that they're an accredited service center but I don't see how they can confiscate the private property of somebody - fake or not. They are not actually the owner of the rights or intellectual property of the watch. If the watch was stolen I can certainly see them holding it until the police took possession of it. This seems like Harrods confiscating fake Versace pants that were brought in for alterations. They may be an authorized seller of Versace clothing but I can't see how that would permit them confiscate the items. The pants and the watch have some value - fake or not. In the case of the watch it was 8,000 for some guy. Would the dealer destroy the fake watch? Do they have to claim it as income before destroying it?
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bags1971
·I get that they're an accredited service center but I don't see how they can confiscate the private property of somebody - fake or not. They are not actually the owner of the rights or intellectual property of the watch. If the watch was stolen I can certainly see them holding it until the police took possession of it. This seems like Harrods confiscating fake Versace pants that were brought in for alterations. They may be an authorized seller of Versace clothing but I can't see how that would permit them confiscate the items. The pants and the watch have some value - fake or not. In the case of the watch it was 8,000 for some guy. Would the dealer destroy the fake watch? Do they have to claim it as income before destroying it?
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