Be careful with that Seamaster 300 from Peru.....

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What's going on here then - the 321 looks accurate - is it a bait and switch on the movement then? Forget the other side, this side is more interesting.

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Don't worry if you miss this one Achim, you can have a chance on a nice 2915 he's got on auction.

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https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/313734772475?hash=item490c0cb6fb:g:JncAAOSworFhglw~

Just watched this auction end up now, sold for USD 8211. Funny bit of detail on the sold page for this item:

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FREE Expedited Shipping from Greater China to worldwide


Located in:
AYACUCHO, Peru

Seriously I don't understand how some people can throw this much money at a watch, when about 30 seconds of due diligence would show it's almost certainly a scam?
 
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Just watched this auction end up now, sold for USD 8211. Funny bit of detail on the sold page for this item:

Postage:
FREE Expedited Shipping from Greater China to worldwide


Located in:
AYACUCHO, Peru

Seriously I don't understand how some people can throw this much money at a watch, when about 30 seconds of due diligence would show it's almost certainly a scam?
The thing is, he offers "Free 30-day returns." If he sends you a dead Seiko, or an empty box, or whatever--you just file the return form and you are guaranteed to get a full refund--from eBay if not from him.

If the listing had said "Seller does not accept returns" that would be different. You could try for a return, but he could fight it and it wouldn't be guaranteed.
 
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Just watched this auction end up now, sold for USD 8211. Funny bit of detail on the sold page for this item:

Postage:
FREE Expedited Shipping from Greater China to worldwide


Located in:
AYACUCHO, Peru

Seriously I don't understand how some people can throw this much money at a watch, when about 30 seconds of due diligence would show it's almost certainly a scam?

its greed...
 
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its greed...
Trying to understand what you mean here; are you saying that it's worth the (high) risk to buy it cheap in order to resell for a profit?
 
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Trying to understand what you mean here; are you saying that it's worth the (high) risk to buy it cheap in order to resell for a profit?

Oh Dear..... 99% sure they do not exist. Not with this " Seller "......
 
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I can鈥檛 understand how some people can pay this kind of amount to a seller with just 10-15 feedback. Or is there some collaboration behind?
 
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Trying to understand what you mean here; are you saying that it's worth the (high) risk to buy it cheap in order to resell for a profit?

Yes. A halfway decent 2915 can sell for 10 times the price they pay here. These scams are mostly fallen for by the people with dollar signs in their eyes
 
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Isn't it just a risk-reward calculation mixed with collector's dream of finding a diamond in the rough - we all share that, right? I made the calculation myself. If it's completely different on arrival, i.e. bait and switch, then ebay/paypal will refund. If not then it could be a legit 2915-1 movement. That's got to be worth $6k. All the rest is rubbish, but easily sold for a few quid... Maybe the case is legit, so maybe another $2k. So maybe maybe it's worth it to take the risk of a big fight with eBay... I asked the seller for more pics of the movement - got no response - so figured it's a complete waste of time.
 
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As a heads up, you can't always get your money back from eBay, their new system is pretty messed up - one buyer decided to immediately cancel something I was selling, I immediately approved, it's been more than 2 months, no help from eBay, I tried more than the buyer to get him his money back, it's just not happening

The labels are pretty messed up too - "FREE Expedited Shipping from Greater China to worldwide" - I don't see this, as I see the listing, it's from Peru, maybe he chose a wrong option, but still, "Item Location" matters

With this said, $8k is a lot for some potato pictures indeed
 
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you can't always get your money back from eBay,
Or paypal!
Small order from Chicago (China), never received. Seller produces a tracking # for a different item (47 lbs. vs. 2 lbs.)
and states the UPS driver met me on the street 5 miles away.
UPS tells me it's BS, paypal says tough noogies, delivery confirmed.
Had a huge (for me)transaction pending, so couldn't tell paypal to kiss off.

Now I can!

As the rule goes, buy the seller!
 
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good luck to anyone who is brave enough to make a purchase from South America