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·That is really interesting. I'm curious about how the bracelet on the new Ed White differs from that on the A11 50th. I guess I had assumed they were pretty much the same other than the 19mm v. 20mm.
Availability of 321 even lower than we think it is?
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man winding
·Me too. I’ll be able to compare tomorrow afternoon when mine arrives!
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man winding
·It was literally one of those "shut up and take my money" moments. I might have also said something along the lines of "oh and this is so perfect this could be my end game, bye" (which they did not like that much).
Very glad to hear you’re enjoying yours!
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stevec14
·Congratulations - I’m sure you’re going to love it when it arrives!
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Lex_Lugga
·I’ve measured them both to try to work this out and the only difference that I can see is the width, as you pointed out. It just feels even better (speaking as someone who often wears the A11 largely because the bracelet is so good). Being slightly thinner I guess the bracelet is also slightly lighter.
Thanks for this perspective. Would you be able to measure the width of the middle link on both the A11 and the 321?
I’m very interested to know if they are the exact same width, as it would mean endlinks that can fit the A11 could also fit the 321.
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man winding
·Thanks for this perspective. Would you be able to measure the width of the middle link on both the A11 and the 321?
I’m very interested to know if they are the exact same width, as it would mean endlinks that can fit the A11 could also fit the 321.
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demchocholips
·I’d like to hear from people who have received their steel Speedy 321. When did you express interest/put your deposit down for the watch? Do you have a lot of purchase history with the OB/AD? I put my deposit down at the OB the day after the watch was announced. I’ve been contacting the OB every couple of months with the polite response of “We haven’t heard anything from corporate about when we’ll be getting your watch. Hope to have good news soon.”
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·For me, I’m in the U.K. so no deposit was required. I know the OB quite well and had my name down in July/ august last year. As I was getting twitchy about going grey (they don’t trade trade at a huge premium here) I decided to see how my meteoric rise up the list was going - this was in mid February.
initially, the manager (who is new I think) said he couldn’t find me on the list. I asked if he could check again as had spoken to one of his guys and gave him the date and the sales person via the email I had received.
he apologised and said I had moved up to a decent place, but that he would try and allocate me one as soon as possible. I responded with a thank you. And a cheeky ‘I’m ready to go when you get one in’.
2 weeks later I got a call. I’ve bought 2 watches and about a grands worth of bracelets/straps over the years - so not vip level by any means! I used to work just round the corner however, and used to pop in a couple of times a week, look at the watches and shoot the breeze a bit (not for a year now due to Covid however)
sometimes a gentle prod to work out where you are and to show you are serious can work the oracle. I had a similar experience with a Harrods Tudor a few years ago when I got one after about 2 months.
so it can be done. Just depends on your OB. I think the case he could have a guaranteed sale, and not have to faff around calling a load of punters that didn’t want may have helped.
Or maybe I just got lucky....
initially, the manager (who is new I think) said he couldn’t find me on the list. I asked if he could check again as had spoken to one of his guys and gave him the date and the sales person via the email I had received.
he apologised and said I had moved up to a decent place, but that he would try and allocate me one as soon as possible. I responded with a thank you. And a cheeky ‘I’m ready to go when you get one in’.
2 weeks later I got a call. I’ve bought 2 watches and about a grands worth of bracelets/straps over the years - so not vip level by any means! I used to work just round the corner however, and used to pop in a couple of times a week, look at the watches and shoot the breeze a bit (not for a year now due to Covid however)
sometimes a gentle prod to work out where you are and to show you are serious can work the oracle. I had a similar experience with a Harrods Tudor a few years ago when I got one after about 2 months.
so it can be done. Just depends on your OB. I think the case he could have a guaranteed sale, and not have to faff around calling a load of punters that didn’t want may have helped.
Or maybe I just got lucky....
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·How is the accuracy of it? anybody test this out. just curious.
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·so it can be done. Just depends on your OB. I think the case he could have a guaranteed sale, and not have to faff around calling a load of punters that didn’t want may have helped.
Or maybe I just got lucky....
3rd to sign up the day of release at a fairly large OB in the U.S.; placed a full deposit; did everything over the phone
I had no history with this OB, and had only purchased one modern Omega but in a Japan AD (Tokyo 2020); the OB salesperson did ask me to send photos of my Tokyo 2020 receipt, and of my vintage Omega pieces, in order to “better establish my file” -> I was happy to oblige these oddities in that it felt the salesperson was attempting a genuine attempt to determine I was a serious buyer for personal use. Touched bases with the OB every few months.
I ultimately waited 356 days before I got the call.
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stevec14
·How is the accuracy of it? anybody test this out. just curious.
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man winding
·I somehow missed the release (absolutely no idea how) so called my OB in the summer to get on the list. I was told 12-18 month wait at that time and turned out to be more like 7 or 8.
I know the OB well and had some purchase history at the time but by no means VIP.
I know the OB well and had some purchase history at the time but by no means VIP.
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·I somehow missed the release (absolutely no idea how) so called my OB in the summer to get on the list. I was told 12-18 month wait at that time and turned out to be more like 7 or 8.
I know the OB well and had some purchase history at the time but by no means VIP.
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man winding
·I don’t time my watches if I’m honest, but I have this and it’s between 1-2 seconds a day out. Pretty impressive really.
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··Ash @ ΩFI wonder if they’ve addressed some of the failures on the 321 or if the new ones suffer from broken chronograph bridges and column wheels that shed teeth like the vintage ones did, given they said they copied the original it sounds like there wasn’t a desire to improve upon it really.
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man winding
·I wonder if they’ve addressed some of the failures on the 321 or if the new ones suffer from broken chronograph bridges and column wheels that shed teeth like the vintage ones did, given they said they copied the original it sounds like there wasn’t a desire to improve upon it really.
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··Ash @ ΩFGood question. Do you think these problems with the vintage ones were down to the design (which I guess is the same) or tooling/materials (which may have improved)?
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Tipofthehat
·I wonder if they’ve addressed some of the failures on the 321 or if the new ones suffer from broken chronograph bridges and column wheels that shed teeth like the vintage ones did, given they said they copied the original it sounds like there wasn’t a desire to improve upon it really.
With the age of the "classic" 321 movements, is it possible over the years they have been serviced by non Omega shops where adjustment, non OEM parts, assembly or torque specifications of screws not being used etc could cause failures? Also while the original outward appearances sizes are copies based on the original I would suspect where applicable modern materials with stronger resistance to fatigue would have been used. I also say this as almost all the vintage 321s I see on the market have scratched up movements and the screws show signs of tooling damage. These have been around since the 60s and for a good portion of that time were not as coveted as they are now so I'm sure many found service at the local mall.
In other news, the local OB mentioned they see a good number more Silver Snoopy models then ss321s coming in.
My money is still on at the prediction, at end of this references life the total count circulating will be inline with a "limited edition" run.
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··Ash @ ΩFWith the age of the "classic" 321 movements, is it possible over the years they have been serviced by non Omega shops where adjustment, non OEM parts, assembly or torque specifications of screws not being used etc could cause failures? Also while the original outward appearances sizes are copies based on the original I would suspect where applicable modern materials with stronger resistance to fatigue would have been used. I also say this as almost all the vintage 321s I see on the market have scratched up movements and the screws show signs of tooling damage. These have been around since the 60s and for a good portion of that time were not as coveted as they are now so I'm sure many found service at the local mall.
In other news, the local OB mentioned they see a good number more Silver Snoopy models then ss321s coming in.
My money is still on at the prediction, at end of this references life the total count circulating will be inline with a "limited edition" run.
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·I wonder if they’ve addressed some of the failures on the 321 or if the new ones suffer from broken chronograph bridges and column wheels that shed teeth like the vintage ones did, given they said they copied the original it sounds like there wasn’t a desire to improve upon it really
The question I would have is, how frequent a problem are these issues with this caliber? Do watchmakers see this commonly?