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Automatic Chronometer “Pie-Pan” from 1969 (168.025) Omega (368)

Messerchmitt309
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Hello Folks!

I'm new the forum and have learned a lot from everyone! I wanted to ask about 2 things with this post regarding a Chrono24 Vintage Omega Constellation:

1) Authenticity of this particular Constellation. I was unable to verify this reference number with the year it was made. If it is in fact legit, does the selling price align with the condition and "rarity" of the piece? I am skeptical.

2) Has anyone done business with the seller of this piece? They are a Japanese company selling Vintage watches called, "Time to Times." Though I wasn't able to find much information about this from other buyers.

https://www.chrono24.com/omega/omeg...n-from-1969-168025-great-cond--id17685422.htm

Thanks in advance!
 
la_lusigne
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Hello and welcome to the forum 👍

The watch seems authentic but there are some dubious points about it.

The printing on the dial seems original but I would expect the indexes to be blackened since the hands have a black inlays. It’s a reference I’m not very familiar with so I’ll let others confirm that or not.

In my opinion the case is in relatively poor condition.

The price is very expensive especially if you buy from overseas, depending on your location, the customs fees might be expensive.

As a matter of comparaison, here is another example sold on the forum : https://omegaforums.net/threads/196...bracelet-pie-pan-dial-cal-564-serviced.84300/
 
Messerchmitt309
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la_lusigne la_lusigne
Hello and welcome to the forum 👍

The watch seems authentic but there are some dubious points about it.

The printing on the dial seems original but I would expect the indexes to be blackened since the hands have a black inlays. It’s a reference I’m not very familiar with so I’ll let others confirm that or not.

In my opinion the case is in relatively poor condition.

The price is very expensive especially if you buy from overseas, depending on your location, the customs fees might be expensive.

As a matter of comparaison, here is another example sold on the forum : https://omegaforums.net/threads/196...bracelet-pie-pan-dial-cal-564-serviced.84300/

Thank you! I also appreciate the link for the comparison as it definitely establishes a better picture on the market rate.
 
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la_lusigne la_lusigne
Hello and welcome to the forum 👍

The watch seems authentic but there are some dubious points about it.

The printing on the dial seems original but I would expect the indexes to be blackened since the hands have a black inlays. It’s a reference I’m not very familiar with so I’ll let others confirm that or not.

In my opinion the case is in relatively poor condition.

The price is very expensive especially if you buy from overseas, depending on your location, the customs fees might be expensive.

As a matter of comparaison, here is another example sold on the forum : https://omegaforums.net/threads/196...bracelet-pie-pan-dial-cal-564-serviced.84300/


Holy cow! the sold one you linked, is a beauty! perfect bracelet to boot!

I'm halfheartedly looking for a pie pan, and the one on Chrono seems to be almost 1k more than I'd put into it. $1500 to my door would seal the deal on it.
 
Peemacgee
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Welcome @Messerchmitt309

the watch you’ve posted is indeed a pie pan dial but in what is perhaps the least desirable of Constellation cases.
These watches aren’t at all rare and the case is only, at best, average and certainly not good.
The price is probably three times what it should be for this most divisive of Connies.

edit: pic added from link for reference

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Dan S
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Peemacgee Peemacgee
Welcome @Messerchmitt309

the watch you’ve posted is indeed a pie pan dial but in what is perhaps the least desirable of Constellation cases.
These watches aren’t at all rare and the case is only, at best, average and certainly not good.
The price is probably three times what it should be for this most divisive of Connies.

Definitely an unusual design choice by Omega. Looks like they stuck a dressy chronometer in a generic skin diver case.
 
sfaaron
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It appears that the indexes do contain a black material, which I believe is typically onyx. Either due to glare or poor focus the black isn't particularly apparent.

la_lusigne la_lusigne
...The printing on the dial seems original but I would expect the indexes to be blackened since the hands have a black inlays. It’s a reference I’m not very familiar with so I’ll let others confirm that or not...
 
Dan S
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The year could be correct. You would need the serial number of the specific watch. That OVD entry simply notes when the reference originated.
 
AngelDeVille
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I’m learning a lot from this thread, I didn’t know there were different cases, I just see a pie pan and start to drool...
 
gatorcpa
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I own that exact model.

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The indices do not have onyx. They are painted black. The dial must have been water damaged at some point.

The vertically textured finish is original and correct for this model.

The price is absurd.
gatorcpa
 
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