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  1. noelekal Home For Wayward Watches Aug 26, 2018

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    How about a 1934 Gillette Aristocrat razor in its "Greek Key" pattern case?

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    Or an even more uncommonly found 1941 Gillette Regent Tech in its even harder to find case.

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    The Regent Tech with the Aristocrat and an additional scarce Gillette model, the holiday-season-of-1949-only Gillette Executive in Rhodium.

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  2. divetime Aug 26, 2018

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  3. allwoundup Aug 28, 2018

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    Syrte, thanks for your response/comments/questions. I am by no means a scholar/expert in Art Deco or watch design, but I have enjoyed this thread immensely. Thank you for kicking it off, and thanks to all the great contributions from OF members.

    My apologies in advance for the length of this missive.

    As most creative human undertakings are derivative, finding elements of Art Deco in consumer product design from the inception of the Art Deco movement to the present is to be expected.

    While scholars undoubtedly have "start" and "end" dates for the Art Deco movement, and rigid definitions of what constitutes Art Deco, the consumer product market tends to be a messier and less precise place than academe.

    In the post you responded to, I was essentially asking what influence the later "Streamlining" branch of Art Deco had on watch design? I invited OF members post pictures of relevant examples. Upon reflection, we might first consider what influence the earlier years of the Art Deco movement had on watch design.

    As to the time period for this expanded discussion, I believe the genesis of Art Deco is generally accepted as just prior to WWI, and its "Streamlining" sub-branch is generally accepted as emerging during the first half of the 1930s.

    However, as we are essentially discussing the application of the art form to a consumer product (i.e., watches) rather than the art form per se, we might shift the timeline a couple/few years to accommodate for the typical lag time between the genesis of an art form, when it is "consumed" primarily by "patrons of the arts", to the commercialization of the art form, when it is consumed in product form by the masses. So for discussion purposes, the period 1920 to the early1940s makes sense to me.

    I believe my initial thinking about the influence of Art Deco Streamlining on watch design was actually focused on the high volume mass produced segment of the watch market targeting the "average man". However, in inviting OF members to provide examples of that influence, in the back of my mind I was perhaps hoping for examples of higher-end, lower production watches -- "specimen" pieces, if you will -- that foreshadowed what was to come in the mass produced sector of the market.

    When pondering the influence of Art Deco on watch design, I looked at a couple of online vintage Bulova watch sites for visual references, specifically https://www.watchophilia.com/photogallery/ and http://mybulova.com/bulova-models. Both have great photo galleries containing various models categorized by year of production. As there is considerable similarity in product aesthetics across manufacturers during the period of time being discussed, I believe these two Bulova sites provide a valid reference for manufacturers in the high volume mass produced market sector, as a whole.

    Some inexpert observations and questions for possible discussion.....

    While the predominant shape of men's timepieces prior to WWI appears to be have been round -- i.e., pocket watches and trench watches -- men's wristwatches from immediately after WWI to the early 1940s appear to be predominantly rectangular. It is extremely common for the cases and dials of watches to be embellished with Art Deco motifs. Art Deco case and dial embellishments, such as chased designs, remain very popular throughout the 1920s and and 1930s, as do the use of Art Deco type fonts on dials.

    Question...did Art Deco influence the radical change in the shape of men's timepieces, from round to rectangular, as represented in wristwatch form, post-WWI through the early 1940s? Rightly or wrongly, I have always regarded Art Deco to be biased toward "angular/linear" design motifs rather than "curvilinear" motifs.

    Throughout most of the 1920s, men's rectangular wristwatch cases tended to be "squarish" -- i.e., having rather tight length-to-width ratios. It wasn't until the late 1920s that men's rectangular wristwatch cases began to elongate, and then only slightly so. A couple examples:
    https://www.watchophilia.com/photogallery/bulovas-1920-1929/a1928-brewster/
    http://mybulova.com/watches/1929-wellington-1785

    The laterally "stepped" rectangular men's wristwatch cases that are commonly associated with Art Deco design don't seem to appear until 1928-29, and then in only a very few models. Laterally stepped rectangular case motifs grow increasingly more "dramatic" and very popular by the mid-1930s. A couple examples:
    https://www.watchophilia.com/photogallery/bulovas-1930-1939/a1934-lone-eagle/
    http://mybulova.com/watches/1936-commentator-2228

    The popularity of these "dramatic" laterally stepped case motifs appears to decline significantly after 1937.

    Question...why did it take more than a decade for laterally stepped Art Deco motifs to be incorporated in men's wristwatch designs and become a popular design element? Is the popularity of the stepped motif tied to the construction of iconic stepped Art Deco skyscrapers such as the Chrysler Building (construction started 1928...completed 1930) and the Empire State Building (construction started 1930...completed 1931), and the emergence of the modern urban skyline, more generally?

    While the rectangle appears to be the dominant shape of men's wrist watches from 1920 until the early 1940s, a few significant and increasingly popular changes emerge in mid-1930s through the early 1940s. First, the rectangular form becomes more commonly elongated. Second, the relatively sharp "angularity" common in rectangular cases from 1920 to the mid-1930s begins to give way to a general softening of edges and surfaces through rounding and the increased incorporation of "curvilinear" forms. Third, Art Deco case and dial embellishments are increasingly eliminated. Lastly, to the extent that rectangular cases still incorporate lateral stepping, the steps tend to be fewer (often only one step), much thinner and run the majority, if not the entirety, of the case length.
    Some examples:
    http://mybulova.com/watches/1938-rite-angle-7092
    http://mybulova.com/watches/1939-standish-6988
    http://mybulova.com/watches/1940-ambassador-5145
    https://www.watchophilia.com/photogallery/bulovas-1940-1949/a1941-minute-man2/

    I would argue that the changes outlined in the above paragraph are the direct result of the emergence of the "Streamlining" branch of the Art Deco movement during the first half of the 1930s.

    In my initial post regarding the influence of Art Deco Streamlining on watch design, I referenced the movement's influence on automotive design through the evolution of hood ornaments. I chose images of hood ornaments rather than images of the cars they adorned because they perhaps more fully embody the streamlined vision, while the design of the car itself is often compromised by cost considerations. It is not surprising that the most fully realized examples of automotive streamlining are very high end, often bespoke, creations.

    In any event, I believe it is difficult, if not impossible, to fully appreciate Art Deco Streamlining as it relates to architecture and consumer products without having an appreciation for the roots of functional streamlining, specifically as it relates to technological innovation in machine powered transportation during the early first half of the 20th century.

    As innovations in propulsion technologies advanced making higher speeds feasible for travel on land, on/in water and in the air, drag (air/water resistance) became THE obstacle to be overcome. Thus the immense functional importance of streamlining.

    The dramatic increases of machine powered transportation which emerged in the first half of the 20th century in no small way defined "modernity", progress and the trajectory of history in the mind of the average man.

    Consider that at the turn of the century, and perhaps for a decade or more afterwards, the average person in a modern western country never moved faster than they could walk or be pulled in a wagon/buggy by a horse. For a time, there was serious scientific speculation regarding the possible health ramifications for humans if the magic "mile a minute" (60mph) barrier was achieved. On today's highways, drivers doing 60mph are regarded by most of us as "obstacles" to where we are going.

    Functional streamlining of the means of transportation represented the "future", and explains "why" elements of transportation streamlining became an aesthetic widely applied to non-transportation design from architecture, to furniture, to radios, juicers, pencil sharpeners...perhaps even watches.

    If you actually read all the way through to here, you are crazier than I am....go do some research for WRUD?

    Some examples of various things from 1914 and streamlined in 1938....
     
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  4. allwoundup Aug 28, 2018

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    Oops, forgot to includes these two to the end of my last post.....1914 Waltham and 1938 Hamilton "Brooke".
     
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  5. Syrte MWR Tech Support Dept Aug 28, 2018

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    Thanks for taking the time for this long reply (which I did read in full). I was asking because I had never heard the words “Streamline” or “Streamline Moderne” before— and so I had no idea what you were referring to.
    I realize it is because I am French— and so now I am finding this refers to what the French call “style Paquebot”.

    I’m not an expert either, just a very keen student and explorer of cities, and so I went back to Wikipedia—which seems to be well sourced on “Art deco” (always a concern about Wikipedia).

    It defines the style as a late one, starting around 1937, characterized by elungated horizontal lines, often contrasted by rounded veritcals or angles.
    Going by its name and your own post, it does seem clear its core initial influence is in transportation.

    Do watches lend themselves to those volume? The rounded chubby style doesn’t seem so easy to accommodate to the flatness of watches and I’m a bit skeptical. However there’s one watch posted above which perhaps could be seen as “streamline”.

    Below a building picture I snapped in La Chaux de Fonds which I think is typical of the style.
     
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  6. Deafboy His Holiness Puer Surdus Aug 28, 2018

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    Fabulous desk at the French National Museum of Decorative Arts in Paris

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  7. allwoundup Aug 28, 2018

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    In reading many of your informative and insightful posts over the last couple of months that I have been an OF member, it has often struck me that you have a much better command of my native tongue than I do. You also have a wonderful "eye", and passion, for design. Reading your posts, I have often thought that it would be delightful to walk around a city with you and listen to your thoughts on the various designs encountered along the way. I truly enjoy and respect your insights.

    I believe that the key characteristics of "Streamlining" or "Paquebot" are, as you note, horizontal elongation, as well as the incorporation of flowing curvilinear surfaces that give the impression of being able to pass through the air effortlessly -- or, in the case of stationary objects such as architecture, that air/wind can easily pass around it. Streamlined design is often used to evoke the sense of forward motion or speed.

    Perhaps the most representative examples of streamlining as it applies to watches are the Gruen Curvex and its many imitators, and the wing-shaped side view asymmetrical designs of the Hamilton "Brooke" and Bulova and Longines "Rite-Angle" models, all of which were created around 1937-38...photos attached.

    I also ran across an interesting article this morning that examines the evolution of watch case design during the period we have been discussing, and the role played by movement design in that evolution. Should anyone be interested, here is a link to the article https://www.thefedoralounge.com/threads/vintage-watch-designs-an-introduction.82930/

    Cheers!
     
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  8. noelekal Home For Wayward Watches Aug 28, 2018

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    Oh yeah. Forgot about this one even though it's in plain sight here. Perhaps a bit late for art deco, I think these were first sold in 1949.

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  9. Syrte MWR Tech Support Dept Aug 28, 2018

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    @allwoundup thank you so much for such kind compliments. :)
    As for those asymetrical "curvex" style watches, you make quite a compelling argument about them.
    In any event they look great. (I'm partial to the Longines of course ;))
     
  10. bubba48 Aug 28, 2018

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    "Dear Mr Xxxxx,
    I hope all is well with you. Thank you for the photographs! According to these pictures, I can tell you that the Tissot watch with case number 514331 and movement number 273123 was produced on August 26th, 1929 and has a calibre 10 ½’’’. It is a Tissot Hermetic watch in silver with Art Deco design lacquered on the case. The Tissot Hermetic watch were launched the same year in 1929. Estelle Fallet wrote on the Hermetic watch:

    Sports lovers and ladies appreciated this innovation, which was the subject of careful study by the house of Tissot, with the creation of a version known as the “Hermetic watch”. When a push-piece is pressed, the back opens and strikes an edge: the movement then appears on an easel to serve as a small table clock. If the wearer prefers, the watch can be suspended from a cord. A mirror is set in the caseback. Special care is taken over the decoration of these timepieces: luxury leather, China lacquer (encrusted with eggshell) and enamel work. The silver cases of the “Tissot Hermetic” watches are supplied in Morocco leather presentation-cases. Some of these watches, for travel use with striking alarms, are housed in precious China lacquer cases, enamelled and enhanced with leather”. [in Estelle FALLET, Tissot 150 years of history: 1853-2003, 2003, p. 77]

    In attachment I send you two pictures of the Guideline for Tissot Hermetic watch of 1929. It seems to be a beautiful piece, congratulation! If you are interested to sell it to our Tissot Museum you can tell it to Ms Favre and she will tell you more about our process. And don’t worry, I think she will answer you as soon as possible.

    I hope this information will be of assistance to you,
    With my best regards,

    Elodie W."
     
  11. Syrte MWR Tech Support Dept Aug 29, 2018

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    Beautiful watch indeed @bubba48, I’m not surprised those Tissot people wanted it for their museum! (I would want it too :p)
    and fantastic catalog!!

    Very cool clock too @noelekal, I think you’re right about the style being a bit later than art deco.
     
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  12. allwoundup Aug 29, 2018

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    All compliments deserved and sincere. However, I did include the Longines to provide undue influence for my argument.;) Have a wonderful day.
     
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  13. divetime Aug 31, 2018

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    Louvre Paris

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  14. Deafboy His Holiness Puer Surdus Aug 31, 2018

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  15. X350 XJR Vintage Omega Aficionado Aug 31, 2018

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    Hidden treasures, downtown Los Angeles.

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    Not mine but too nice not to share.

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  18. adam78 Adam @ ΩF Staff Member Sep 1, 2018

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    Reminds me to show these. The Elgin was my great-grandfather's.
     
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  19. Syrte MWR Tech Support Dept Sep 1, 2018

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    Beautiful...
    That knife is great :thumbsup:

    here’s a building that’s clearly art deco inspired —although built probably much later : a soviet movie theater in Bishkek, capital of Kyrgysztan...
     
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  20. Darlinboy Pratts! Will I B******S!!! Sep 1, 2018

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    The Guardians of Traffic... drove by the often when we lived in the land of Cleve.

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