Are you concerned with Omega rubber straps?

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A common kitchen fire that only involves a boiled over pot with a nonstick surface off gases an incredible amount of terrible stuff compared to the old fashioned materials and it is definitely poisoning everything around and makes our job more toxic than a generation ago. Used to just go in and carry the pot outside but now it’s expected that you use SCBA and decon the fire gear after.
 
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These decisions could have effect on future sales.
It could be marketing game, but it could be not. We don't need to say the Sun is more dangerous on the summer than rubber. We have products: A, B, C, D or leather, nylon, metal, rubber. and one product is worse than others. That's all we know for now. It's enough!
It does influence me in some away. I took off my rubber straps on all watches. I would be happy to see other side where advance research will take place.
All premium watches use fluoroelastomers/rubber (including Patek).
 
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I have changed the strap to nylon on Garmin.
Have you checked your nylon strap to determine if contains dye chemicals, plasticzers, stabilizers, heavy metals or flame retardant chemicals?
 
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Have you checked your nylon strap to determine if contains dye chemicals, plasticzers, stabilizers, heavy metals or flame retardant chemicals?

I have checked!
Nothing about… you like it or not premium rubber is the worst now.
I would be happy to wear rubber straps, but now life is changing very fast.
 
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Hope none of you ever polish your hesalite crystal. Heard them called cancer crystals from those in the know. There is a reason Omega just replaces them.
 
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Guys, do you think “sailcloth” relatively “safe” vs rubber? I have never used one.
 
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maybe we should start a thread called 'are we being shrinking violets'

Honestly, we may as well walk around naked, eat fruit from a tree and live in straw huts and wash with rain water.

Sorry, but when I put a Seamaster on this morning with a rubber strap, not once did I think if it had PFA's in and will it hurt me and I wont be doing it in the future either.
 
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Sorry, but when I put a Seamaster on this morning with a rubber strap, not once did I think if it had PFA's in and will it hurt me and I wont be doing it in the future either.

I was thinking in the same way. I was very happy with rubber straps, but not for now…
 
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Care in the Community Announcement

Please pm me for the delivery address for all unwanted Omega rubber straps (and watches).

Best wishes,
Too Oldtacare
 
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maybe we should start a thread called 'are we being shrinking violets'

Honestly, we may as well walk around naked, eat fruit from a tree and live in straw huts and wash with rain water.

Sorry, but when I put a Seamaster on this morning with a rubber strap, not once did I think if it had PFA's in and will it hurt me and I wont be doing it in the future either.
Nothing fragile here buddy and not sure what region of the world you live in or how you earn your living but when you are told an industry has been using a toxic and lethal material to reduce your life expectancy because it creates more wealth for them you might feel different.


P.S. I’m still wearing my rubber strap because after 20 years of putting that gear on it’s the least of my problems but I won’t ignore others concerns anymore either. History has too many examples of companies ignoring the facts until they are subject to class action lawsuits………………my two cents worth
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Guys, do you think “sailcloth” relatively “safe” vs rubber? I have never used one.
You are just trolling us now. Please go braid a watch strap from native grasses.

Do you realize that only one person responding is taking you at all seriously (because he spent decades covered in fluorocarbon-containing textiles under extreme conditions) and even he is still wearing a rubber watch strap. Read the room.
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You are just trolling us now. Please go braid a watch strap from native grasses.

Do you realize that only one person responding is taking you at all seriously (because he spent decades covered in fluorocarbon-containing textiles under extreme conditions) and even he is still wearing a rubber watch strap. Read the room.

Because the majority are sheep.
Lesson learned from the history.
I am not saying you should buy a strap from grass (Cartier already did from fruit), I advise you to stick with leather or metal if this is an issue.
The reason you react like this because you don’t like the truth or what? I think it’s very right to have a healthy product consider you wear it for the whole of your life.
 
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Some are sheep, and some understand science.

The science has been provided. The commentary from professor as well. What else do we need? All watch companies will stand up and will say to millions sheep that they were wrong?
 
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The science has been provided. The commentary from professor as well. What else do we need? All watch companies will stand up and will say to millions sheep that they were wrong?
You read the science, but you didn't understand it.
 
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You read the science, but you didn't understand it.

Do you understand it? Share with us your thoughts.
It was clearly stated that these particles could go inside the skin with open pores when human is sweat. How and what consequence exactly it doesn’t matter now. Are these particles bad for human? Yes! Could they potentially go inside? Yes. What happen if you have a cut on your wrist and your strap interacting with that cut? Have you thought about that?
 
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The science has been provided.


I'm going to stop you right here- probably not to any valuable effect, but I'm going to do it anyway. "Science" is the process by which we come up with a hypothesis and test something, and then test it again, and again, and again, through a process of refinement to see if we can come up with a theory (theory: a well supported and tested idea of how something works)

The hypothesis in this study is essentially "do watchbands made of fluoroelastomer contain PFA"


The experiment you are citing- the one the article you shared cited- used solvents to extract PFAs from the watchbands so that the amount could be measured. One of the ways in which the sample was tested was QuEChERS, in which the sample is "homogenized" and then exposed to a solvent. Here's how it works.

And here's how the study says they did it:



The study also used another method of specifically extracting PFAs:




(both screenshots from the study your article provided)

Unless you are dissolving your watchband and then putting it directly on your skin, you're not going to get the same results.

So what does the science say? It says that these chemicals are present. That's not the same thing as assessing the risk when the product is worn normally, and the next step in the scientific process would be to test for that in a way that is reflective of reality.

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Unless you are dissolving your watchband and then putting it directly on your skin, you're not going to get the same results.

So what does the science say? It says that these chemicals are present. That's not the same thing as assessing the risk when the product is worn normally, and the next step in the scientific process would be to test for that in a way that is reflective of reality.
Fantastic explanation.
however, we don’t know whether the strap will be ok after 10 years of use and because we still have bad particles inside we don’t know to what level they resist to wear but more importantly whether it’s safe. Too much “if”.
 
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Too much “if”.

Well.... gosh. You know, I genuinely feel as if this entire conversation was totally pointless. As far as I can tell, you have a nearly totally ossified opinion, which makes me wonder what the actual point of the initial question was and renders any conversation about the scientific method utterly and completely valueless.

Anyway, great thread.