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May be if he lied on his immigration papers!?

No didn't lie, just thought a exemption to play was a exemption to enter Australia...one issued by Tennis Australia and Vic state government one issued by the Australian Federal government.

He has as much chance as Pistol and Boo of staying in Australia (Johnny Depp,s dogs)
 
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They, including Pistol and Boo, should do the respectable thing and pay their way into New Zealand instead ::stirthepot::
 
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No didn't lie, just thought a exemption to play was a exemption to enter Australia...one issued by Tennis Australia and Vic state government one issued by the Australian Federal government.

He has as much chance as Pistol and Boo of staying in Australia (Johnny Depp,s dogs)
Got it.

In the end, it is a loss for tennis, but everybody is replaceable and I look forward to a great tournament and a great winner this year.

And to preemptively counter those who may eventually say “well, the best player in the world wasn’t there, therefore the 2022 champion bla bla bla…”… i will just remind them that to win, you must first be able to participate in the challenge. So if Novaxx decided to disqualify himself willingly, then so be it.
 
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There is a simple, very simple solution to this problem that is very Australian.



Two men enter, one man leaves.
I know you won’t break the rules, there aren’t any.
 
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Bit of trivia, Frank Thring, Pontius Pilate from Ben Hur, is the collector in Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome.

And is Australian.
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I hear that the English cricket team have approached Djokovic for advice on how to get your visa cancelled.
 
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Aside from that, while the federal government isn’t loved, Australians do have a particular hatred for people getting special treatment, especially ultra-wealthy foreign celebrities.
This isn't just an Australian thing. This is the one thing the whole world agrees on except for the ultra-wealthy foreign celebrity.
 
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This isn't just an Australian thing. This is the one thing the whole world agrees on except for the ultra-wealthy foreign celebrity.
It’s just a bit more acidic and no holds barred here, like every sporting fixture where the Prime Minister gets to present the trophy, the moment he goes up, even if he’s just been elected in a landslide, he gets booed by the crowd. There’s no “respect the office” here, they’ll get called a f*ckhead on camera while walking through a shopping center or get egged by a pissed off local and there’s no wall of secret service protecting them.

I remember a Broncos game a few years back against the Rabbitohs and the big screen shows Russell Crowe and his celeb friends in his box as he’s the owner of the Rabbitohs. Whole crowd was chanting “get f*cked rusty” to embarrass him and he’s just nodding like yea I probably had that coming.
 
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It’s just a bit more acidic and no holds barred here, like every sporting fixture where the Prime Minister gets to present the trophy, the moment he goes up, even if he’s just been elected in a landslide, he gets booed by the crowd. There’s no “respect the office” here, they’ll get called a f*ckhead on camera while walking through a shopping center or get egged by a pissed off local and there’s no wall of secret service protecting them.

I remember a Broncos game a few years back against the Rabbitohs and the big screen shows Russell Crowe and his celeb friends in his box as he’s the owner of the Rabbitohs. Whole crowd was chanting “get f*cked rusty” to embarrass him and he’s just nodding like yea I probably had that coming.
I knew it! Someone was telling me the on-field abuse the England batters get is actually at the gentle end of the spectrum, because the Oz players and fans feel a bit sorry for them.
 
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Question - should unvaccinated sports stars be banned from international competition?
No. Just follow the rules of the country you live in or are going to. It's really not that hard, the rules and laws are all available for everyone to see

Did Novak try to sidestep these rules? I'm not sure but you would imagine he has people to check these things. Does he need to go to Australia? I doubt it as he seems to be doing fairly well, regardless...

One day we will not be so concerned about these aspects of life/vaccination but at the moment, try to fit in with what people want ( two jabs and a booster in UK) although I would object to being asked for my vaccination status by a border guard so, I don't put myself in that situation.

Anyway, let's hope that Rafa plays well👍 -
I prefer Federer (as I'm old) but not sure he'll be involved.

Cheers, Chris
 
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The Aussies don’t like people who can beat them,this method of stopping them entering the country could be here to stay.that’s why they chose to live so far away from civilisation.no local competition you see.too scared to come to England to compete in the rugby league World Cup but ok to compete in Tokyo olympics! and winning the ashes at cricket is pointless,they will NEVER be given the iconic trophy and so it’s a pointless competition anyway.
The only good thing to come out of Australia are koala bears,love them so adorable,so cute.but even they hide in trees far away from the general population and to think that Australia was discovered by a Yorkshireman,what the hell was captain Cook thinking!
 
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and to think that Australia was discovered by a Yorkshireman
A Yorkshireman named Willem Janszoon? Shurely shome mishtake!
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No,no mistake.Botany Bay,Union Jack in the top corner,speaking the worlds premier language.the Queen as supreme head of state.the clues are there.you will be telling us the Magellan was the first man to circumnavigate the globe.but if this willem janzoon bloke did discover Australia he should have had his passport stamped.or is he still in a covid isolation hotel waiting deportation?
 
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I think your question should be, should international sports stars be excluded from rules governing ordinary members of society. Speaking as a Victorian who has missed under lockdown funerals of close family members, births, milestone family events not to mention being unable to work, and not including the terribly sad stories of others who could not cross State lines to see dying relatives, etc, I’m a little over how film stars can come and go apparently at ease so I’m not inclined to easing rules for anyone. Let alone heavily indulged and self entitled sports stars. This bloke can go take a running jump. Tried gaming the system. Sod off.

I agree with you as there are different rules here in NY for those who visit as sports/stars. That said, I would think Australia would be in favor of calling the entire Open off, given their hyper-lockdown response in general to Covid. Seems to fly in the face of their "policies", such as they are. More contradiction...
 
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I saw that, but - with all due respect to him for his work - would want to listen to a majority among scientists, so as of now this interview doesn’t seem relevant to me. Which isn’t saying there won’t be a change in our position at some point, of course, but I‘d want to wait until most scientists agree that’s the case.

By the way: It’s possible to have an anti-body count of basically zero a few weeks after an infection, too.

I hate to delve in here as I remained mostly out of the previous threads the past year or so. However, I will say that over-reliance on science/scientists has proven to be disastrous as a whole. Boots-on-the-ground such as myself and ICU MD mentioned can categorically tell you this beast has changed, and has progressed as many previously predicted/suspected it would; higher infection rates with lower death/hospitalization rates.

The antibody stuff is SOOOOO misunderstood by laypeople and the media (or not) that it pains me. What you state, at it's simplest level is both true, and irrelevant at the same time.
 
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I agree with you as there are different rules here in NY for those who visit as sports/stars. That said, I would think Australia would be in favor of calling the entire Open off, given their hyper-lockdown response in general to Covid. Seems to fly in the face of their "policies", such as they are. More contradiction...

I had a colleague who was afraid to travel in / did not want to use the tube etc. WFH was not an option. He is an older guy so I am not judging.... then first chance he gets he is off on a flight to Jamaica....
 
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Like Charles Barkley says ...
“Well shoutout to Australia, who said no Novak Djokovic, you just can’t come here for two weeks and win millions of dollars playing tennis”
 
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The Aussies don’t like people who can beat them,this method of stopping them entering the country could be here to stay.that’s why they chose to live so far away from civilisation.no local competition you see.too scared to come to England to compete in the rugby league World Cup but ok to compete in Tokyo olympics! and winning the ashes at cricket is pointless,they will NEVER be given the iconic trophy and so it’s a pointless competition anyway.
The only good thing to come out of Australia are koala bears,love them so adorable,so cute.but even they hide in trees far away from the general population and to think that Australia was discovered by a Yorkshireman,what the hell was captain Cook thinking!


Koala have chlamydia, multiple generations of indigenous people would probably have rather not been discovered by any invaders.
 
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I agree with you as there are different rules here in NY for those who visit as sports/stars. That said, I would think Australia would be in favor of calling the entire Open off, given their hyper-lockdown response in general to Covid. Seems to fly in the face of their "policies", such as they are. More contradiction...

Not really. Australia went through a great deal of hard lockdowns in various places at the start of this pandemic, and early on it was quite successful at limiting spread, hospitalizations, and deaths. Unfortunately that advantage was squandered somewhat (the family we have there there uses much harsher words I can assure you) when the PM failed to get in early on vaccine orders. However they have done a very good job of catching up on vaccination rates considering how far behind they were initially. They are of course well ahead of the US, and have pretty much caught up with Canada now in terms of people fully vaccinated (2 doses).

For the Open, to be an in-person spectator you have to be fully vaccinated to get in, and masks are required indoors.