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·As if Djokovic's "people" don't know...
Anyone for Tennis - Djokovic situation discussion time ?
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Vercingetorix
··Spam RiskI’m starting a go fund me campaign to see if I can find local legend Tonya Harding. She will fix him.
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Omegafanman
·You guys should cut him some slack - when there is an investigation senior people often do not know what they have done pending the outcome of said lengthy investigation - “It’s the age old question: If a tree falls in a forest, but no-one’s there to hear it, does it make a sound?''... it seems to work for some :0)
MP doesn’t know whether she attended Downing St Party - YouTube
(Joke / parody sketch - easy to confuse it with the real thing)
MP doesn’t know whether she attended Downing St Party - YouTube
(Joke / parody sketch - easy to confuse it with the real thing)
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Archer
··Omega Qualified WatchmakerI'm afraid we saw the same playbook when Sharapova got pulled up over her "heart medication". Gives me no pleasure to say that.
As Sharapova found out, blaming your team for that one won't fly - WADA operates on the concept of strict liability, so if it's in your system and it's prohibited, you are guilty of an anti-doping offense by that very fact. You can only try to prove that it was inadvertent from there, in the hopes of getting a shorter ban.
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blufinz52
··Hears dead people, not watch rotors.I’m starting a go fund me campaign to see if I can find local legend Tonya Harding. She will fix him.
Not funny.
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M'Bob
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Not disagreeing, but it raises the question of what we expect from these people, like athletes or media stars.
We idolize them, hang on their every word when interviewed, and they invariably say something pat, banal, or stupid. Because they are successful, and are wealthy, we assume that conveys some degree of intelligence or problems solving skills. In fact, many of those that fall into these categories are undereducated, by devoting much of what would have been traditional education time, to honing their craft.
I’ve worked in ortho/sports rehab my entire life, thus being around athletes much of the time. I will just say this: my ocular muscles were often in spasm from rolling my eyes after hearing some of the utter nonsense that came out of their mouths.
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Socks
·I can see the meeting now at Djokovic HQ early December 2021.
NDJ - “I don’t care how you do it!! I want to play in the Aus open next month!!! Make it happen!!!”
NDJ - “I don’t care how you do it!! I want to play in the Aus open next month!!! Make it happen!!!”
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Omegafanman
·Not disagreeing, but it raises the question of what we expect from these people, like athletes or media stars.
We idolize them, hang on their every word when interviewed, and they invariably say something pat, banal, or stupid. Because they are successful, and are wealthy, we assume that conveys some degree of intelligence or problems solving skills. In fact, many of those that fall into these categories are undereducated, by devoting much of what would have been traditional education time, to honing their craft.
I’ve worked in ortho/sports rehab my entire life, thus being around athletes much of the time. I will just say this: my ocular muscles were often in spasm from rolling my eyes after hearing some of the utter nonsense that came out of their mouths.
It’s a good point you make. Perhaps in the past society used to live a bit vicariously through some of our sports stars and accept / even celebrate some bad behaviour. Performance and training needs combined with social media has now been driven to such a point that they need to live like a saints and it seems also behave like a saints while maintaining a corporate brand image as paragons of virtue and high standards. They also tend to start much younger. As long as they play a good game and entertain us should we really hold them to the same standards as our leaders and equally the common people. We could chose to cut him some slack and let the sport play on / just enjoy the spectacle of the tournament. It is within our gift and no physical damage has been done - it is more now a point of principle (playing devils advocate). A few more deserving and important non- sport cases might have their feet held to the fire in the meantime / Maybe this tennis issue is a bit of a storm in a tea-cup. On the flip side if we remove all the edgy characters sport will get a bit dull.
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··Omega Qualified WatchmakerIt’s a good point you make. Perhaps in the past society used to live a bit vicariously through some of our sports stars and accept / even celebrate some bad behaviour. Performance and training needs combined with social media has now been driven to such a point that they need to live like a saints and it seems also behave like a saints while maintaining a corporate brand image as paragons of virtue and high standards. They also tend to start much younger. As long as they play a good game and entertain us should we really hold them to the same standards as our leaders and equally the common people. We could chose to cut him some slack and let the sport play on / just enjoy the spectacle of the tournament. It is within our gift and no physical damage has been done - it is more now a point of principle (playing devils advocate). A few more deserving and important non- sport cases might have their feet held to the fire in the meantime / Maybe this tennis issue is a bit of a storm in a tea-cup. On the flip side if we remove all the edgy characters sport will get a bit dull.
You keep saying that we should be "cut him some slack" but he has already been cut significant slack by any reasonable standard. It's pretty clear you feel he is being persecuted for his anti-vaxxer stance, but his celebrity and money has afforded him some very serious advantages in this whole thing compared to the average person.
Do you think it's normal that he was able to get a hearing before a judge on what amounted to the next working day?
Do you think it's normal that someone who fills out a false declaration entering the country wasn't immediately dealt with instead of the minister "debating" if he should face any repercussions, while he is out doing whatever he needs to do?
You seem oblivious to the fact that you aren't really arguing for them to cut him some clack, but for him to get special treatment that an average citizen doesn't get.
My wife is Australian and she has lived through this whole pandemic worried sick that if something ever happened to one of her family members back in Australia (he entire family is there, including her 80 year old mother) that she wouldn't be able to travel there because the entire country was locked down to international travel for all that time. The tone deafness of your posts is somewhat astonishing...
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Omegafanman
·You keep saying that we should be "cut him some slack" but he has already been cut significant slack by any reasonable standard. It's pretty clear you feel he is being persecuted for his anti-vaxxer stance, but his celebrity and money has afforded him some very serious advantages in this whole thing compared to the average person.
Do you think it's normal that he was able to get a hearing before a judge on what amounted to the next working day?
Do you think it's normal that someone who fills out a false declaration entering the country wasn't immediately dealt with instead of the minister "debating" if he should face any repercussions, while he is out doing whatever he needs to do?
You seem oblivious to the fact that you aren't really arguing for them to cut him some clack, but for him to get special treatment that an average citizen doesn't get.
My wife is Australian and she has lived through this whole pandemic worried sick that if something ever happened to one of her family members back in Australia (he entire family is there, including her 80 year old mother) that she wouldn't be able to travel there because the entire country was locked down to international travel for all that time. The tone deafness of your posts is somewhat astonishing...
I am just putting an alternative view to encourage some debate - I am not advocating anyone cuts him some slack - just interested in any alternative views. I would add that have also been on my own journey as we all have. I do understand there is a lot of anger around and that will come out. I think we are about to see some of that in the UK as well.
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Pianotuna
·Just to summarise;
The unvaccinated Djokovic’s entire strategy to enter Australia was to catch COVID in a period sometime between the advice from Tennis Aust in November and early January?
Which he did.
Hmmm.
Fortunate.
😗
I’m not a superstar athlete but I’d probably have had a backup plan.
The unvaccinated Djokovic’s entire strategy to enter Australia was to catch COVID in a period sometime between the advice from Tennis Aust in November and early January?
Which he did.
Hmmm.
Fortunate.
😗
I’m not a superstar athlete but I’d probably have had a backup plan.
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Archer
··Omega Qualified WatchmakerI am just putting an alternative view to encourage some debate - I am not advocating anyone cuts him some slack - just interested in any alternative views. I would add that have also been on my own journey as we all have. I do understand there is a lot of anger around and that will come out. I think we are about to see some of that in the UK as well.
Are you serious?
We could chose to cut him some slack and let the sport play on / just enjoy the spectacle of the tournament. It is within our gift
You guys should cut him some slack
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Omegafanman
·I cannot be serious.... I guess a career in commentary is also out for me....
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dsio
··Ash @ ΩFJust to summarise;
The unvaccinated Djokovic’s entire strategy to enter Australia was to catch COVID in a period sometime between the advice from Tennis Aust in November and early January?
Which he did.
Hmmm.
Fortunate.
😗
I’m not a superstar athlete but I’d probably have had a backup plan.
If he were one week earlier or later he would have missed out on one of the two tournaments but by getting the diagnosis when he did, his excuse for both is there.
Amazing timing really. How lucky.
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Observer
·It’s interesting that he’s seen as antivax by some people based on his avoidance of a single vaccine that is relatively untested and is not a vaccine at all by the traditional definition of the word. Maybe anti covid vaccine would be a more objective term, if you’re into objectivity. 😀
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Dan S
·It’s interesting that he’s seen as antivax by some people based on his avoidance of a single vaccine that is relatively untested and is not a vaccine at all by the traditional definition of the word. Maybe anti covid vaccine would be a more objective term, if you’re into objectivity. 😀
Quote from April 2020, before vaccines were available:
“Personally, I am opposed to vaccination, and I wouldn’t want to be forced by someone to take a vaccine.”
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dsio
··Ash @ ΩFLooks like the Spanish authorities are now looking into him for violating their laws as well when he entered the country, that’ll make Roland-Garros interesting later in the year.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ountry-not-having-exemption-travel-Spain.html
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ountry-not-having-exemption-travel-Spain.html
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··Ash @ ΩFIt’s not really just vaccination he’s against, he has some nutcase homeopathic doctor that gives him homeopathic nothing-water for his medical conditions. Tied in to the lack of education in many elite athletes there’s also an abundance of superstition and belief in the supernatural, which Novak takes to extremes, believing ancient buildings provide healing and restorative powers, buying special blessed/empowered water from his guru and getting Reiki healers to remove threads from his aura.
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··Omega Qualified WatchmakerNothing worse then bad threads in your aura, man...