Any Help RE Considering Purchase of 1977 1675

cvalue13 · Dec 27, 2019

OF hive mind,

A well known and reputable dealer is offering this 1977 (my birth year) 1675 Pepsi.

https://lunaroyster.com/product/1977-rolex-gmt-master-ref-1675-pepsi-bezel-mk4-dial/

But, vintage Rolex are not my forte. I’m sure this watch is right and rightly priced for a buyer, but not certain if so for me-buyer.

I’d appreciate any views (including by DM I’d preferred).

I’ve been scrounging for a birth-year 1675 for some time, but finding it hard to pull the trigger given my gap of knowledge in this space.

southtexas · Dec 27, 2019

It’s definitely been polished but still presents very well in my opinion. The lower crown guard might bother someone but all in all, it’s a real beauty and priced to sell.

Tri-national-man · Dec 28, 2019

I couldn’t live with those crown guards.. That’s a deformed case in my opinion.. And will be harder to flip than a better one...

Yak1 · Dec 28, 2019

Hey. This thread may be helpful. I personally purchased a watch from that dealer and it wasn’t as described. That was before I joined OF. Now I would probably make a different decision.

https://omegaforums.net/threads/2915-3-for-sale-on-ebay-75k-lunaroyster-caveat-emptor.73801/

cvalue13 · Dec 28, 2019

Thanks - hadn’t realized he’d been banned from OF, which if true mean’s I retract my above-mentioned “reputable” suggestion (was leaving him innocent until proven etc).

Hoped for a ‘77 root beer anyway...

Yak1 · Dec 28, 2019

Yeah. I got the watch. It stopped winding in short order. In fairness, it was clearly stated that it wasn’t serviced. However, the pushers were speedmaster replacements and not original. The ad stated that they were all original. As well as the crown. I reached out to him and he was initially responsive and then went radio silent. I considered it a noob tax. The watch went to omega and returned magnificent with service crowns and pushers which were appropriate. I learned the following: 1) buy the buyer, and 2) research a ton.

cvalue13 · Dec 28, 2019

To the deeper point of learning about the GMTs:

With the watch linked above and other 1675’s I’ve seen, there is sometimes an oddity I don’t understand: the outer side of the a lug has the bracelet pin protruding. Seems the protrusion is often to only one side of a lug pair.

Is this a result of mismatched spring bars, a lug being polished thin, or?

watchknut · Dec 28, 2019

Don’t like the case

Don’t like the lume patina

Hard pass.

Price seems great from a dealer...there is a reason, always.

They need to pay for their lavish lifestyles, so you are never getting a deal.

DesignerV · Dec 31, 2019

cvalue13
To the deeper point of learning about the GMTs:

With the watch linked above and other 1675’s I’ve seen, there is sometimes an oddity I don’t understand: the outer side of the a lug has the bracelet pin protruding. Seems the protrusion is often to only one side of a lug pair.

Is this a result of mismatched spring bars, a lug being polished thin, or?

Agree with @watchknut 's assessment here.

Some cases do seem to have had asymmetric lugs from the factory, but only slightly. I think it's more usually a poor quality or condition spring bar, or due to case modification as you mentioned.

GMT's are common enough that it's worth waiting and watching for quality.

vacheroyale · Jan 9, 2020

there are several question marks on the cosmetics of the GMT, and if the price it's a strong market price , it's not an attractive GMT to purchase. it should have an aged patina well balanced everywhere, dial, indexes ., hands

vacheroyale · Jan 9, 2020

out of curiosity..... what they're asking for it ??

cvalue13 · Jan 9, 2020

vacheroyale
out of curiosity..... what they're asking for it ??

Seems they've sold it since, so price isn't still listed - and I really don't remember at this point.

vacheroyale · Jan 13, 2020

probably was well over 10K

cvalue13 · Jan 13, 2020

vacheroyale
probably was well over 10K

it was certainly over $10K

asrnj77 · Jan 13, 2020

Along the lines of dealer GMTs, I saw this 16750 for sale. Clearly service hands and crown but thoughts on the case? It’s been polished for sure and I can’t see any chamfers but the lugs still seem pretty thick to me.

JwRosenthal · Jan 13, 2020

cvalue13
To the deeper point of learning about the GMTs:

With the watch linked above and other 1675’s I’ve seen, there is sometimes an oddity I don’t understand: the outer side of the a lug has the bracelet pin protruding. Seems the protrusion is often to only one side of a lug pair.

Is this a result of mismatched spring bars, a lug being polished thin, or?

Incorrect spring bars. These watches take shoulder-less "fat" spring bar. If you use regular spring bars they can stick out the sides and you get the gap between the endlinks and the first link- plus a little extra rattle. The correct spring bars sit just inside holes, tighten the gap and reduce the rattle (although rattle is part of the joy of hollow end links). I thought it was BS and had used generic spring bars for years, then got a pair of the correct ones and it made a real difference in how the bracelet fits.

vacheroyale · Jan 13, 2020

cvalue13
it was certainly over $10K

definitely, but I don't think over 15K

vacheroyale · Jan 13, 2020

asrnj77
Along the lines of dealer GMTs, I saw this 16750 for sale. Clearly service hands and crown but thoughts on the case? It’s been polished for sure and I can’t see any chamfers but the lugs still seem pretty thick to me.

What they're asking for the 16750? any papers with it?

Dan S · Jan 13, 2020

cvalue13
Thanks - hadn’t realized he’d been banned from OF, which if true mean’s I retract my above-mentioned “reputable” suggestion (was leaving him innocent until proven etc).

Hoped for a ‘77 root beer anyway...

I am probably going to sell my RB. I will check the serial number, I know it's in that general time frame. Of course, you probably understand that there is no way to know the exact year.

Edit: Serial is 5,771,xxx, so perhaps more likely 1978?

JwRosenthal · Jan 13, 2020

Dan S
I am probably going to sell my RB. I will check the serial number, I know it's in that general time frame. Of course, you probably understand that there is no way to know the exact year.

Edit: Serial is 5,771,xxx, so perhaps more likely 1978?

Holy Canoli!!! Look at those edges!

So you may have been born in ‘77, but conceived in ‘76- perhaps didn’t have real consciousness until ‘78...so there is some leeway 😉

Any Help RE Considering Purchase of 1977 1675

cvalue13

southtexas

Tri-national-man

Yak1

cvalue13

Yak1

cvalue13

watchknut

DesignerV

vacheroyale

vacheroyale

cvalue13

vacheroyale

cvalue13

asrnj77

JwRosenthal

vacheroyale

vacheroyale

Dan S

JwRosenthal

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