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Lamp will tell the tale. But damn it’s pretty!
 
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as @trash_gordon said, UV lamp is a must to check the lume.
Your dial looks original but I am more circumspect about the hands installed
Please forgive my ignorance, but how would you know using a UV lamp?
 
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Here is my 145.012-67 for comparison (direct sunlight vs. post-strong illumination test).



And here along with my 105.012-66 HF

How long does that lume last until it goes completely dark? Also, what year is it? I’m trying to educate myself on tritium dials and was unaware that they can still be charged by sunlight after the tritium has lost its effectiveness. I’m not really interested in lume, I just want to be able to identify an original tritium dial.
 
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So really re lumers are using zinc phosphate, and no tritium is needed for the lume to look correct under UV light? If so is the dead Tritium still readable on a Geiger counter on and original dial?
 
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So really re lumers are using zinc phosphate, and no tritium is needed for the lume to look correct under UV light? If so is the dead Tritium still readable on a Geiger counter on and original dial?

Tritium cannot be detected by a Geiger counter. The low Beta emitter (electrons) usually need additional help (scintillation agents) to be detected.
 
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The way to tell is that the Chrono hand is a tad shorter than the original.


Notice the hour hand is a tad thicker.

and the lume "window" on the original minute hands is a tad longer and is closer to the tip.
This ought to be a Stickie on "How to Identify Service Hands".
I've spent waaay too long trying to visualize these comparisons.
Thanks @ndgal !
 
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The hands on the OP watch could be original Omega part with original lume, but they look like service replacement.

The way to tell is that the Chrono hand is a tad shorter than the original.



Notice the hour hand is a tad thicker.


and the lume "window" on the original minute hands is a tad longer and is closer to the tip.




The dial lume in the picture looks pretty convincing to me. Need a super close up macro shot to see the texture of the lume.

This week I have seen (in hand) a 105.003 with a re-lumed dial by LAWW.
They actually showed it to me to ask my opinion of what I think about the quality of the work.
It was nice, but not perfect. To a trained eye it is very easy to spot the re-lume job. And it doesn't react to UV light to the same level as an original lume dial does.
And again, I've seen it in person, in my hand. Not through pictures.
How can you spot a relume? Also, what do you think of these photos?
 
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How can you spot a relume? Also, what do you think of these photos?

The texture of the plots (very smooth) is different to what I am used to see. However, I'm not saying your plots are relumed as I have already seen this kind of plots on Speedies from the 90's. Is your Speedmaster from this period?

Concerning the hands, the patina seems not to match the one of the plots so they are maybe period correct (tritium) service parts.

Have a good day.

Cheers.
 
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The texture of the plots (very smooth) is different to what I am used to see. However, I'm not saying your plots are relumed as I have already seen this kind of plots on Speedies from the 90's. Is your Speedmaster from this period?

Concerning the hands, the patina seems not to match the one of the plots so they are maybe period correct (tritium) service parts.

Have a good day.

Cheers.
It is from the time period you mentioned (1992). I guess I really don’t care if it’s been relumed as long as it will still age the same and develop the nice patina that tritium develops over the years. Will this happen? Or, does it depend on the material that was used (if it was in fact relumed)? If so, how can you tell what material it is?
 
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It is from the time period you mentioned (1992). I guess I really don’t care if it’s been relumed as long as it will still age the same and develop the nice patina that tritium develops over the years. Will this happen? Or, does it depend on the material that was used (if it was in fact relumed)? If so, how can you tell what material it is?

Fine. I guess the plots (not tritium, because tritium will simply age (=decay) in helium) will age similarly to what you can expect.
However, you have to keep in mind that tritium-containing plots may get very different patinas (from algae to deep orange colors)...
Nevertheless, I fear that the hands and plots will develop different patinas as they are already (slightly) different...
 
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I have seen a few watches where the hands and markers glow at much different levels, which I assume means the hands were replaced. However, in this case the hands and markers diminish at the same level. Does that reveal anything?
 
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I have seen a few watches where the hands and markers glow at much different levels, which I assume means the hands were replaced. However, in this case the hands and markers diminish at the same level. Does that reveal anything?

It only reveals that hands and plots were impregnated by 3H at the same period...
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Nevertheless, your hands and plots have very slightly different colors (patina) so I am really not sure the hands were replaced in the past.
You also have to keep in mind that hands and plots were probably produced by different manufacturers so, the intrinsic materials used were maybe slightly different, explaining the different colors.
 
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Does it look like tritium to you? They are slightly yellow in color but there are no signs of shrinkage or cracks. Could it have been relumed with tritium? If so, are there any drawbacks to that?
 
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Yes it does look like tritium hands and plots. I think neither the dial nor the hands were relumed. I just guess they were produced (maybe), by different manufacturers.
As I told you, the different in colors between your plots and hands is really small...
 
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Another day, another 67....The 1st one I posted on this thread sold pretty fast so here is another one 😉

"CONDITION REPORT: The overall condition is excellent. The dial is in mint condition, case is unpolished and stunning. The seconds hand luminous material has been refilled"

Looks polished to me.... anyone else?

 
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I compared to this unpolished 67. It looks so different, I presumed has been polished a lot.... but does anyone know if there were different case band shapes on 67's?