An uncommon Constellation

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OlivierC

·Dec 28, 2022

Dear all,

I’m new to watch-collecting, and I'm new to this forum. Thanks for accepting me!

I started to collect Omega one year ago, because I inherited a De Ville from my late father. I have now 5 of them (see pic), to fit each outfit ;-)

I just bought an uncommon Constellation.

To my knowledge, it’s a 1956 De Luxe OT 2853, with the « Arrow » dial.

I need to bring it to my watch repair to get it opened, to know which movement is in and to ask Omega for the history of the watch with the serial number – but I cannot wait to know more.

The watch is in solid gold (stamps, weight) and runs very well. However:
- the crown is probably not original
- it does not display ‘Constellation’ on the dial, on top of the star
- the words « officially certified » are written in italics, with a font that looks like the « globemaster » one.

Someone (on Facebook) said that some US models did not have the « Constellation » writing.
Another one said that the dial is repainted – but it looks very neat. Also, why would someone decide to change the font and to remove the « constellation » writing?

My guess is that it’s maybe a prototype. If you have any information, I would be very thankful!

Best,

Olivier

 

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janice&fred

·Dec 28, 2022

Oh boy...

 

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OlivierC

·Dec 28, 2022

Say more, please ;-)

 

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X350 XJR

·Dec 28, 2022·Vintage Omega Aficionado

Eagles head hallmarks indicate a French case.

 

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OlivierC

·Dec 28, 2022

X350 XJR

Eagles head hallmarks indicate a French case.

Thanks ;-) I own a XKR 2003 Coupé. People who love Jaguar apparently love Omega as well...

 

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TexOmega

·Dec 28, 2022

☕

 

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RevZMan123

·Dec 28, 2022

I think the dial is what's know as a "pipedream" rather than a "prototype"

 

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cristos71

·Dec 28, 2022

OlivierC

I just bought an uncommon Constellation.

To my knowledge, it’s a 1956 De Luxe OT 2853, with the « Arrow » dial.

A 2853 Deluxe would have a solid gold case and a solid gold dial and the case would also have the 2853 reference number in the back. Yours is a French cased Constellation, possibly the French equivalent of a 2648 if it has a bumper 352 or 354, or with a 501 or 505 it would be the French equivalent of something like a 2852

OlivierC

My guess is that it’s maybe a prototype. If you have any information, I would be very thankful!

No, it's just a poor redial unfortunately

 

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OlivierC

·Dec 28, 2022

cristos71

A 2853 Deluxe would have a solid gold case and a solid gold dial and the case would also have the 2853 reference number in the back. Yours is a French cased Constellation, possibly the French equivalent of a 2648 if it has a bumper 352 or 354, or with a 501 or 505 it would be the French equivalent of something like a 2852



No, it's just a poor redial unfortunately

Thanks for the information! I will know more when opening the watch ;-)

 

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Walrus

·Dec 28, 2022

Whenever someone says it’s a poor redial I always examine it and consider if I could do better. Using the walrus artistic skills to judge redials 99.9% of them are pretty damn good, even the sharpie pen ones.

 

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kaplan

·Dec 28, 2022

I'd put my money on prototype too but I'd not put too much money

 

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OlivierC

·Dec 28, 2022

kaplan

I'd put my money on prototype too but I'd not put too much money

I agree!

In fact, I like the watch - even if it's a Franken or redial -, it works very well, I don't intend to sell it and it was cheap... So, I'm just curious about what it is!

 

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janice&fred

·Dec 28, 2022

OlivierC

I'm just curious about what it is!

Now you know.
This thread could use more Jagwire pictures 😁

 

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TexOmega

·Dec 28, 2022

And kittens, don't forget kittens.

 

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OlivierC

·Dec 28, 2022

This is mine, named Dinah! She has doubts about the watch, and considers my money would have been better spent if I had bought kibble...

 

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X350 XJR

·Dec 28, 2022·Vintage Omega Aficionado

 

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OlivierC

·Dec 28, 2022

X350 XJR

I'm sorry to talk cars in an Omega forum... (I like cars and I draw cars! I bought the watch by selling a drawing...).

The XJR is just stunning: best four doors ever, in my view. Congrats!
What is the hotrod? Is that a V12?

 

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Duracuir1

·Dec 28, 2022·Never Used A Kodak

TexOmega

And kittens, don't forget kittens.

 

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X350 XJR

·Dec 28, 2022·Vintage Omega Aficionado

OlivierC

I'm sorry to talk cars in an Omega forum... (I like cars and I draw cars! I bought the watch by selling a drawing...).

The XJR is just stunning: best four doors ever, in my view. Congrats!
What is the hotrod? Is that a V12?

The hotrod is my Jaguar mechanics personal car, is powered by an electronically fuel injected Jaguar V12.

 

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OlivierC

·Dec 28, 2022

X350 XJR

The hotrod is my Jaguar mechanics personal car, is powered by an electronically fuel injected Jaguar V12.

That's very impressive! A very nice one! It reminds me great videos of Van Halen and ZZ Top from the 1990s!