Am I thinking right about this purchase?

Joe K. · Aug 30, 2017

Hi Guys,
I have been mostly an Omega collector for the past 20 years, but have always wanted A Rolex GMT with pepsi bezel (probably due to exposure at an early age...😜).

I prefer vintage over modern and am looking for a watch that I can wear every day and not worry about it too much. My research so far has me leaning towards a 16710 with a pepsi bezel. My thinking is to look for a 16710 in good condition (I don't care if its dinged, but not too bad and definitely not over polished). All original parts is a must and I rather have it on an Oyster bracelet.

Are there any other issues I should be taking into consideration?
Thanks, Joe

sjg22 · Aug 30, 2017

I would check out the 16750 as well, especially if you prefer vintage - transitional model that bridges vintage with modern.

You get the acrylic crystal for the vintage look, and you can make these robustly waterproof if properly serviced.

They've gone up in value quite a bit as late (a few threads on here to that effect) and I think there may be more room for them to go up in future for the reasons above, especially the early matte dials. You can find later glossy dials around $7-8k if you look.

jfmiii · Aug 30, 2017

16750 matte is the way to go. some modern accouterments like a upgraded, high beat movement vs the 1675, a solid bracelet in the 78360 yet still retains the charm of matte under acrylic. more expensive than the 16710 but unless you are looking for a daily wearer you can beat around, it is the way to go.

sensui · Aug 30, 2017

I own my share of 16710,16750, and 1675s......if I could only have one it'd be between the 16710 and the 16750....key factor would be water resistance. I wouldn't submerge a plastic crystal no matter how recently serviced...too much at risk with vintage parts/replacements.

onthedial · Aug 31, 2017

@Joe K.
If you've done your research and you prefer the 16710 over the 16750 matte dial-type (this one will always be the most "vintage" of the references we're focusing on) then you should take steps in acquiring one. While I personally prefer and own a matte dial 16750 that fact is irrelevant...you should always acquire what YOU want. At the end of the day the 16750 is a fantastic reference--it looks awesome, it's incredibly robust, and it's currently a bit undervalued (but prices are rising steadily). Lastly, what's also cool about the GMT is that you can purchase a black insert too thus giving the timepiece a whole new look; it's like having 2 watches in 1.

TTG · Aug 31, 2017

You can't go wrong with the 16710, sapphire crystal. Another work horse, which everyone is obviously preferring over the Submariner because the option to change inserts..
Another forgotten reference is the 16760, known as the Fat Lady.. I recently acquired a seldom worn one. Here is a picture of one lug to show the condition..

Uniqez · Aug 31, 2017

T TTG
You can't go wrong with the 16710, sapphire crystal. Another work horse, which everyone is obviously preferring over the Submariner because the option to change inserts..
Another forgotten reference is the 16760, known as the Fat Lady.. I recently acquired a seldom worn one. Here is a picture of one lug to show the condition..

Jeez, she is a beauty !

Larry S · Aug 31, 2017

sensui
I own my share of 16710,16750, and 1675s......if I could only have one it'd be between the 16710 and the 16750....key factor would be water resistance. I wouldn't submerge a plastic crystal no matter how recently serviced...too much at risk with vintage parts/replacements.

+1 ... To make really clear ... Yea its ok to have out in the rain but no swimming. I don't regard anything with a Pepsi Bezel as a watch I don't need to worry about much when they are all increasing in price and a new version is only available in platinum at an insane price. More modern the better.

jfmiii · Aug 31, 2017

sensui
I own my share of 16710,16750, and 1675s......if I could only have one it'd be between the 16710 and the 16750....key factor would be water resistance. I wouldn't submerge a plastic crystal no matter how recently serviced...too much at risk with vintage parts/replacements.

+1 on that. anyone going near water with an acrylic crystal watch is asking for trouble, imo.

chows99 · Aug 31, 2017

Or u can consider 16700. The major plus compared to 16750 is the slightly lower price and the last of the "GMT Master". With no II, the dial is cleaner. Its also have quickset date which is so useful

Larry S · Aug 31, 2017

Owning a 1675 and a modern 11671, the quick set date is a huge plus.

Joe K. · Aug 31, 2017

Thanks Guys, definitely good points to consider.
As far as looks the 1675 and 16750 are at the top, but a significant factor will be water resistance. The watch will be occasionally submerged in water and I am therefore leaning towards the 16710.

The simpler solution would of course be to get both.....😀

jfmiii · Aug 31, 2017

you just cant go wrong with one of these 😀

Joe K. · Aug 31, 2017

A beauty!

jfmiii
you just cant go wrong with one of these 😀

Brauner Hund · Aug 31, 2017

I'd say the 16710 'sweet spot' to aim for, for a good useable watch is about 2002/3; still had lugholes, also have superluminova. Much before that and you're buying dead tritium (fine if you're happy definitely not being able to see the time in low light, at least Rolex's awful SL gives you a fighting chance ), much after that and the lugholes aren't drilled (yuk!).

omitohud · Sep 1, 2017

A good condition matte 16750 is almost double a good condition 16710. A certain SF dealer is peddling one complete set for $18500. Pepsi insert not included. There is no point in getting 16750 gloss dial because you can get an arguably better and newer movement with almost same look for less in 16710. As mentioned, 16760 n 16700 r from the same era that u might consider at the close price point of 16710. I don't think u can go wrong with one.

jfmiii · Sep 1, 2017

omitohud
A good condition matte 16750 is almost double a good condition 16710. A certain SF dealer is peddling one complete set for $18500. Pepsi insert not included. There is no point in getting 16750 gloss dial because you can get an arguably better and newer movement with almost same look for less in 16710. As mentioned, 16760 n 16700 r from the same era that u might consider at the close price point of 16710. I don't think u can go wrong with one.

complete sets are different animal. regardless, $18,500 is not where the market is for it at the moment, even if it does sell. here is a beautiful one (albeit without a Pepsi) for $9300 from a seller who listed and sold a complete set for $16,000 days ago. I think $10-12k is where theyre at for minty Pepsis. Of course Pepsis with less desirable bezel/dial patina are $8-9k. Roughly.

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=557554

ICONO · Sep 1, 2017

My recent 16710 acquisition from an OF Member,… image taken, at Sunset, on a Lancashire beach, near to our other House , that I am still renovating

Still utterly thrilled with the watch - Thanks Matt !

Am I thinking right about this purchase?

Joe K.

sjg22

jfmiii

sensui

onthedial

TTG

Uniqez

Larry S

jfmiii

chows99

Larry S

Joe K.

jfmiii

Joe K.

Brauner Hund

omitohud

jfmiii

ICONO

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