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Hi everyone,

I am a new member here and have recently purchased a 145.022. I purchased this watch for 5000€ and have some questions concerning the dial... I am not sure about the date of production as it has the small "R" in speedmaster so I would have imagined it being from the early 80s, since the older ones have the long "R", but the ones with the small "R" seem to have "T Swiss made T" under 6 Oclock, where mine only has Swiss Made... Could I have some advise on the date of production ? The movement number is 44124193 if that helps... Thank you
 
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A 44xxx serial number would indicate that the watch was manufactured in the early 80's (1983 specifically, but this is an approximation at best). That being said, an 80's Speedmaster should have a tritium dial as Omega did not phase out tritium on Speedmasters until around 1997. Your watch clearly has a superluminova dial so something appears to be off here, but let's wait and see what other members have to say.
 
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Most likely dial and hands were changed during a factory service at some point.
 
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Most likely dial and hands were changed during a factory service at some point.
Agreed, and that is unfortunate if the OP intended to buy a Speedmaster in original condition.
 
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Thank you for your responses. Do you think that I purchased it at an appropriate price ? On Chrono24 these start at around 5k up to 7k with the situation I have... What do you guys think ? Thanks 😀
 
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Thank you for your responses. Do you think that I purchased it at an appropriate price ? On Chrono24 these start at around 5k up to 7k with the situation I have... What do you guys think ? Thanks 😀
Chrono24 prices tend to be inflated. 5000 Euro for a 1980s Speedmaster is on the high side of the range, but if you're happy with the watch that's all that really matters.
 
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Chrono24 prices tend to be inflated. 5000 Euro for a 1980s Speedmaster is on the high side of the range, but if you're happy with the watch that's all that really matters.
How much do you think I should have paid to be honest ? Should it at least retail its value over time ? Thanks
 
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How much do you think I should have paid to be honest ? Should it at least retail its value over time ? Thanks
About the same as a more recent one since that’s what it looks like so more like €3-4k IMO but of course dealer prices are higher than private sales.
 
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V victordenarp
Thank you for your responses. Do you think that I purchased it at an appropriate price ? On Chrono24 these start at around 5k up to 7k with the situation I have... What do you guys think ? Thanks 😀
Listen to this gentleman:
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Chrono24 prices tend to be inflated. 5000 Euro for a 1980s Speedmaster is on the high side of the range, but if you're happy with the watch that's all that really matters.
 
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Do you think its possible to purchase and replace the dial with a vintage tritium ?
Possible, but vintage tritium dials and hands for Speedmasters aren’t easy to find and aren’t cheap. If you want a 145.022 with a tritium dial and handset, you might be better off selling the watch you have and buying what you want. You might be able to find a nice tritium reference 3590.50 in the $4k range with some searching and a bit of luck. These were made from the mid to late 1980s through 1996 or so.
 
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Do you think its possible to purchase and replace the dial with a vintage tritium ?

Sometimes they come out here, on IG or some other marketplaces... They are quite expensive though. And if you change the dial, you'll may have to think of the hands too. It will be really expensive at the end.

Yours could be a good speedmaster for a mod project!
 
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Thank you very much for your replies. As for the mod project, what would be the best way to go ?
 
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How much do you think I should have paid to be honest ? Should it at least retail its value over time ? Thanks
I think, and many will agree, you should have passed on this example and found one with the original dial and hands which, most likely, would have cost you around 4K USD. The watch you bought will not retain its value as 5K was too high a price. Considering a tritium dial in very good condition will probably cost 1k+ and a set of hands to match over 500, you should have paid no more than 3- 3.5K for your watch.

It is not worth making it correct, so either keep the watch or sell the watch at a loss and buy another Speedmaster with your new found knowledge.
 
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