Advice needed on a Speedmaster Professional 145.012-67

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abrod520

·Mar 9, 2016

This is a really good-looking watch, and a trip to James Hyman to touch the dial up would result in a really nice piece I think. I'd look to pay $6 tops though; everything else is awesome, even the original crown, but the dial will need work.

 

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jens0125

·Mar 9, 2016

I stick with my original post... I think this is quite a nice piece... If you can work out a price I think you would be quite happy and there would be some jealous folks at OF

 

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off

·Mar 9, 2016

For the most part that is a clean watch, I dig the fact the flat-footed crown is still there. As the others have mentioned the original tritium was scraped off, the dial possibly washed before that new tritium was applied. If you get that watch you'll have to make a decision whether or not you can live with that.

It's still something worth pursuing, try to work with the seller on the price with the points everyone has made.

 

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Hans the Wolf

·Mar 9, 2016

Thank you all for your advice and input, much appreciated ,very kind of you all to help me 😀 I love the kindness I have seen/met here at OF 😀

To sum up the discussion thus far:

- The watch is in good condition except for the lume
- If I buy it for €7k I will have paid a premium price for a watch that is good but not premium
- If I can negotiate a better price I will have done a pretty good affair-
- Can I live with the fact that the dial does not have its original tritium?

To be honest, if I buy this watch I most certainly would like to have it re-lumed, I do not think that I could live with the way the hour markings look now. So, what do you think, will a re-luming ruin stroy the “vintage patina” and value of this watch? After all, it seems to have been re-lumed earlier so if it is re-lumed again it might not be quite a disaster?

Hans

 

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abrod520

·Mar 9, 2016

As said, it looks like this has previously seen a re-lume, so re-re-luming it would probably not further affect the value. Get it done by someone very skilled like James Hyman, and document the re-lume, and sometimes that won't affect the value as long as it's disclosed upon resale. Of course, why worry about that though if you're going to enjoy this watch?

 

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Davidt

·Mar 9, 2016

I'm still not sure how the case can be judged on those pictures alone and I would recommend getting more pictures if you're considering buying without seeing it in the flesh.

I also think there's a strong chance that the lume that remains is original, so if you do end up with it, it might be worth holding off on any dial work initially, until you've satisfied yourself with what's original and what's not.

Again, I'd like better pics, as if the case has issues that can't be seen, and the lume that's there isn't original, I wouldn't be spending that kind of money on it.

 

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ibis888

·Mar 9, 2016

In my limited experience, watches often look very different in real life than in macro photo shots. A lot of the flaws that you see aren't as obvious as the pictures make them out to be (ie missing lume). If you do end up with the watch, you may be surprised when you get it that it's not as "bad" as you may think....

 

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Hans the Wolf

·Mar 9, 2016

I have asked for more pictures of the watch and I have been promised to get them tomorrow, I will share them with you when I get them. If I buy the watch my intention is not to sell it, my plan is to keep it for as long as I can, if I ever sell it I will of course let the buyer know as much as I know about it.

Thanks,

Hans

 

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Hans the Wolf

·Mar 10, 2016

Searched OF for "James Hyman", found this thread: https://omegaforums.net/threads/speedmaster-lume.34181/#post-389618

I have mailed James asking if he could do the same job for this watch.

 

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Hans the Wolf

·Mar 10, 2016

I just got side shots of the case and a better shot of the inside of the caseback. The bracelet that comes with the watch is a 1116/575 and the watch is in for service right now. The wifi connection is too slow where I am now, I will upload the pictures when I get home tonight.

 

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Hans the Wolf

·Mar 10, 2016

 

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jayrock26

·Mar 10, 2016

looks good to me, dial can be touched up tbh its not a big deal with the age of these watches a good portion of them are probably redone and noone even knows it

 

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Hans the Wolf

·Mar 12, 2016

I decided not to buy the watch for various reasons, here is the URL to the seller if any one of you are interested in it:

http://steinermaastricht.nl/en/shop/products/omegaSpeedmaster_9

Thanks for all your input and advice 😀