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·For best pictures take it out of the case. The crystal looks correct. Leave as is. If damaged, Jacek can send you a pretty good new manufactured bubble tropic crystal. Not expensive......
A cry for help (with valuing a 5512) : now FS on ebay
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wsfarrell
·A corect PCG 5512 with 4 liner gilt open railway dial in this condition will be around US$ 20 k. For actual trends search H.Q. Milton and Jacek at Tropicalwatch. Sell maybe at the vintage Rolex Forum and eBay as well.... Good luck ! Kind regards. Achim
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ATWG
·I agree, I wound leave the crystal alone, it looks like a nice original dome. The replacement being mentioned above is True dome, which is being used as a modern alternative.
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Dan S
·A couple of beat up originals. They also don't distort the lume plots.
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·Well done,Dan.
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·Demand is extremely high currently for vintage subs. May be worth talking to a specialist auction house too but you lose out both ways on premiums. Market is moving very fast and could easily be $30k usd plus if all is original. I would strongly avoid changing anything eg crystal. Leave it to new owner
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·Demand is extremely high currently for vintage subs. May be worth talking to a specialist auction house too but you lose out both ways on premiums. Market is moving very fast and could easily be $30k usd plus if all is original. I would strongly avoid changing anything eg crystal. Leave it to new owner
That would be nice, but that's not going to happen. The spotted dial unfortunately can not be re named as tropical..... No Band, not a full set , case polished and no Rolex confirmation.....
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·That would be nice, but that's not going to happen. The spotted dial unfortunately can not be re named as tropical..... No Band, not a full set , case polished and no Rolex confirmation.....
It's really hard to tell from photos but sounds like you have ascertained the value already. My view is just based on other gilt 5512s which include those that have been polished and without papers. I don't think it needs to be tropical to hit a price point as it is about originality. Bracelet wont affect value hugely beyond value of bracwlet itself. In the UK I have seen some really rough vintage subs, mainly 5513, go through at high prices. The forum Collector market will always look for the best but general market is not as well informed. Key is originality which i just cant say from photos. As for rolex paperwork if that is a concern (though not unusual). I would get it serviced by an independent rolex specialist. Am sure some proper experts like jed can give a better view
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·This would worry me
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·That's a good spot, also doesn't look like pcg from side profile but not sure if all were pcg or not?
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·Demand is extremely high currently for vintage subs. May be worth talking to a specialist auction house too but you lose out both ways on premiums. Market is moving very fast and could easily be $30k usd plus if all is original. I would strongly avoid changing anything eg crystal. Leave it to new owner
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·This is not a PCG case. It is 1.5M.
Demand is extremely high currently for vintage subs. May be worth talking to a specialist auction house too but you lose out both ways on premiums. Market is moving very fast and could easily be $30k usd plus if all is original. I would strongly avoid changing anything eg crystal. Leave it to new owner
You need to ask yourself honestly if this watch would be attractive to you at $30k as a buyer. If you're not a potential buyer, it's easy to throw out crazy numbers since you can certainly find comps that go even higher. It's a nice watch, but price would have to be commensurate with condition.
I actually like the watch, and when I read Alex's and Achim's posts, at first I thought maybe they were a little low. So I asked myself if I would buy it at $25k, just as a sort of reality check, and my gut told me no. But that's just me.
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·This is not a PCG case. It is 1.5M.
You need to ask yourself honestly if this watch would be attractive to you at $30k as a buyer. If you're not a potential buyer, it's easy to throw out crazy numbers since you can certainly find comps that go even higher. It's a nice watch, but price would have to be commensurate with condition.
I actually like the watch, and when I read Alex's and Achim's posts, at first I thought maybe they were a little low. So I asked myself if I would buy it at $25k, just as a sort of reality check, and my gut told me no. But that's just me.
That's a good way of looking at it and am sure your right, essentially the price is whatever someone is prepared to pay. My observation was more around the price of gilt dial subs flying and I think the dial on this is attractive even with the spotting. Maybe 30k usd is way off mark but seem to be a few not too far off the mark out there. Saying that I would have said a lot of today's prices were a pipe dream 2 years ago (separate point though!)
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·That's a good way of looking at it and am sure your right, essentially the price is whatever someone is prepared to pay. My observation was more around the price of gilt dial subs flying and I think the dial on this is attractive even with the spotting. Maybe 30k usd is way off mark but seem to be a few not too far off the mark out there. Saying that I would have said a lot of today's prices were a pipe dream 2 years ago (separate point though!)
If you're a buyer at $30k, the OP would probably like to receive a PM from you. 😉
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·According to the original sales listing, the OP paid $15k. According to online price aggregators, 5512 prices are up 17% since then, which would put this around $17,500. No disrespect, but I think a couple of elements of condition may have been overlooked originally. I would put this in the $15-17k range, based on the pictures (which could reveal a lot more if they were better, again no disrespect... ).
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·The spotted dial unfortunately can not be re named as tropical.
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·According to the original sales listing, the OP paid $15k. According to online price aggregators, 5512 prices are up 17% since then, which would put this around $17,500. No disrespect, but I think a couple of elements of condition may have been overlooked originally. I would put this in the $15-17k range, based on the pictures (which could reveal a lot more if they were better, again no disrespect... ).
that was my original estimate as well, but I’ve seen lesser watches sell for above stated price, hence the price range.
#nodisrepect