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ReturnOfUltraman
·Really likin' this Bulang & Sons Smokey Jack Grey Leather strap for the 60th '57.
https://shop.bulangandsons.com/watch-straps/smokeyjack-grey-leather-watch-strap.html
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nsumner
·How is the shipping from B&S headquarters to the U.S.? Anyone have experience buying from them directly?
Their service to the US is first rate! I've bought countless straps from them. Excellent service and Bernhard is a great guy.
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ReturnOfUltraman
·Their service to the US is first rate! I've bought countless straps from them. Excellent service and Bernhard is a great guy.
Excellent, because like Scott was saying, unfortunately websites like Hodinkee, Crown And Buckle, etc. don't carry too many vintage-style straps in 19mm, so going directly to B&S or JPM is the only way to go. If you don't mind, how long does shipping generally take? I'm located in Southeast U.S. as a reference.
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nsumner
·Unfortunately JPM won't sell direct without a very large order. B&S is the only way to go. For a very nominal fee, they'll ship FedEx International Express, it only takes two business days to arrive, typically. I receive packages from them quicker than most US vendors. Honestly, they're the best, trust me.
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ReturnOfUltraman
·Unfortunately JPM won't sell direct without a very large order. B&S is the only way to go. For a very nominal fee, they'll ship FedEx International Express, it only takes two business days to arrive, typically. I receive packages from them quicker than most US vendors. Honestly, they're the best, trust me.
Awesome. Thanks a ton! Now, which strap is the question... 📖
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Andy K
·Excellent, because like Scott was saying, unfortunately websites like Hodinkee, Crown And Buckle, etc. don't carry too many vintage-style straps in 19mm, so going directly to B&S or JPM is the only way to go. If you don't mind, how long does shipping generally take? I'm located in Southeast U.S. as a reference.
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Uhr-Bua
·Hi everybody!
I am new to this forum and really happy to find a place to share my passion for this particular speedy model!
Being a huge fan of the speedy I immediately fell in love with the look of the 311.10.39.30.01.001. In my humble opinion the 60th anniversary edition looks particularly sexy! I live in Berlin and have also put down a deposit at my local AD.
But here´s a thing about the styling: I have noticed, that there seems to be a difference in the dial-design. There are SOME pictures out there, that show the dial WITH a chromeish ring around it, which was also initially featured in the original 1957 speedy.
At the same time there are lots of pictures showing the 60th anniversary without this very ring.
Take a look at what I mean:
You can also take a look at Scott´s pictures at the very beginning of this thread, where the difference is very apparent:
Without ring
and with ring
I am looking forward to your comments. I personally think, that the ring complements the dial very nicely and to me it would be kind of a letdown, if the watch would arrive without it.
Noah
I am new to this forum and really happy to find a place to share my passion for this particular speedy model!
Being a huge fan of the speedy I immediately fell in love with the look of the 311.10.39.30.01.001. In my humble opinion the 60th anniversary edition looks particularly sexy! I live in Berlin and have also put down a deposit at my local AD.
But here´s a thing about the styling: I have noticed, that there seems to be a difference in the dial-design. There are SOME pictures out there, that show the dial WITH a chromeish ring around it, which was also initially featured in the original 1957 speedy.
At the same time there are lots of pictures showing the 60th anniversary without this very ring.
Take a look at what I mean:
You can also take a look at Scott´s pictures at the very beginning of this thread, where the difference is very apparent:
Without ring
and with ring
I am looking forward to your comments. I personally think, that the ring complements the dial very nicely and to me it would be kind of a letdown, if the watch would arrive without it.
Noah
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Uhr-Bua
·But here´s a thing about the styling: I have noticed, that there seems to be a difference in the dial-design. There are SOME pictures out there, that show the dial WITH a chromeish ring around it, which was also initially featured in the original 1957 speedy.
At the same time there are lots of pictures showing the 60th anniversary without this very ring.
I have been at the OB at the KaDeWe here in Berlin around beginning of July, where they had the trilogy "in flesh" for a few days.
The speedy, that they had for demonstration purposes was without this ring.
Has anybody of you noticed that? I am especially interested in the opinion of those, who really had the model in their hands at least one time.
Thank´s everybody,
Noah
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oysterholic
·Hi Noah,
I guess it's actually not a ring, but more a diffraction of the light in the hesalite glass - which makes it look like an insert ring.
Have a look at the other hesalite models of the speedy, and you will recognize a similar effect, depending on light and angle....
regards
I guess it's actually not a ring, but more a diffraction of the light in the hesalite glass - which makes it look like an insert ring.
Have a look at the other hesalite models of the speedy, and you will recognize a similar effect, depending on light and angle....
regards
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Uhr-Bua
·Hello Oysterholic,
I have thought about that as well. But it does not look like a diffraction. If you look closely at the pics, you will see that the distance between the ring and the indices is perfectly even. A diffraction would cause this distance to vary since those pictures were not taken perfectly head-on.
I have thought about that as well. But it does not look like a diffraction. If you look closely at the pics, you will see that the distance between the ring and the indices is perfectly even. A diffraction would cause this distance to vary since those pictures were not taken perfectly head-on.
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eugeneandresson
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They call that ring the 'rehaut'. And if you read up on it (speedmaster101 ofcourse) you will see that up until the 105.002 it was silver, thereafter black. So, methinks this reissue will have a silver rehaut, like the original. And its clear to be seen above. Not sure why it may have looked different in other pics...
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toddle321
·They call that ring the 'rehaut'. And if you read up on it (speedmaster101 ofcourse) you will see that up until the 105.002 it was silver, thereafter black. So, methinks this reissue will have a silver rehaut, like the original. And its clear to be seen above. Not sure why it may have looked different in other pics...
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Uhr-Bua
·Thank´s for enlightening me, Eugene 😀 So "the ring" is called rehaut.
Now the question remains, why on some pics the rehaut is clearly visible whereas on others it looks as if there is none at all. 😕
Now the question remains, why on some pics the rehaut is clearly visible whereas on others it looks as if there is none at all. 😕
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Wing Zero
·That Rehaut looks like it slopes at an angle. Wonder if it will be more straight in the production models.
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wkimmd
·Hi everybody!
I am new to this forum and really happy to find a place to share my passion for this particular speedy model!
Being a huge fan of the speedy I immediately fell in love with the look of the 311.10.39.30.01.001. In my humble opinion the 60th anniversary edition looks particularly sexy! I live in Berlin and have also put down a deposit at my local AD.
But here´s a thing about the styling: I have noticed, that there seems to be a difference in the dial-design. There are SOME pictures out there, that show the dial WITH a chromeish ring around it, which was also initially featured in the original 1957 speedy.
At the same time there are lots of pictures showing the 60th anniversary without this very ring.
Take a look at what I mean:
You can also take a look at Scott´s pictures at the very beginning of this thread, where the difference is very apparent:
Without ring
and with ring
I am looking forward to your comments. I personally think, that the ring complements the dial very nicely and to me it would be kind of a letdown, if the watch would arrive without it.
Noah
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Archer
··Omega Qualified WatchmakerThank´s for enlightening me, Eugene 😀 So "the ring" is called rehaut.
Now the question remains, why on some pics the rehaut is clearly visible whereas on others it looks as if there is none at all. 😕
Can't answer that, but the rehaut (or tension ring - the ring is what holds the crystal in the case) is listed as "grey" on the Omega Extranet. The parts number suggests it will be steel...
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Kazyole
·Can't answer that, but the rehaut (or tension ring - the ring is what holds the crystal in the case) is listed as "grey" on the Omega Extranet. The parts number suggests it will be steel...
My assumption is that it has to do with the photo in question, not necessarily the watch. All the live photos look pretty consistent, but we're comparing it to omega's hero image for the watch. There are two ways that image could have been constructed. It could be a 3D render and not a photo at all, or it could be a composite of several photos put together, which is very common in product photography.
Essentially they separately light and focus for each individual portion of the watch, and then stack and mask those images together to create a photo of the entire watch that is impossibly crisp, perfect, in-focus everywhere, and super evenly lit. While these images are really nice and really let you see a lot of detail, something they don't do well is convey glossy surfaces. You can also end up with some small inconsistencies with the real object, as the watch is essentially being built in photoshop by a retoucher. It's entirely possible that the size of the rehaut was minimized in that photo, completely accidentally. And on top of that, you're not really getting the polished surface look, which minimizes it further. It could even be a composite of photos and a 3D render, which I've also seen done.
It's also an image that's completely flat-on, which would be the angle where you would see the least of the rehaut on all sides. As soon as you angle the watch you're going to see less of it on one side and more on another, but from dead-straight on, it'll be even and relatively thin throughout.
I'd bet on the watch looking more like the live photos than the image from omega, and would chalk that minor difference up to a retoucher's interpretation.
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Uhr-Bua
·My assumption is that it has to do with the photo in question, not necessarily the watch. All the live photos look pretty consistent, but we're comparing it to omega's hero image for the watch. There are two ways that image could have been constructed. It could be a 3D render and not a photo at all, or it could be a composite of several photos put together, which is very common in product photography.
Essentially they separately light and focus for each individual portion of the watch, and then stack and mask those images together to create a photo of the entire watch that is impossibly crisp, perfect, in-focus everywhere, and super evenly lit. While these images are really nice and really let you see a lot of detail, something they don't do well is convey glossy surfaces. You can also end up with some small inconsistencies with the real object, as the watch is essentially being built in photoshop by a retoucher. It's entirely possible that the size of the rehaut was minimized in that photo, completely accidentally. And on top of that, you're not really getting the polished surface look, which minimizes it further. It could even be a composite of photos and a 3D render, which I've also seen done.
It's also an image that's completely flat-on, which would be the angle where you would see the least of the rehaut on all sides. As soon as you angle the watch you're going to see less of it on one side and more on another, but from dead-straight on, it'll be even and relatively thin throughout.
I'd bet on the watch looking more like the live photos than the image from omega, and would chalk that minor difference up to a retoucher's interpretation.
I honestly hope you are right
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LeonDeBayonne
·I honestly hope you are right
We will know some day over the next 12 months. I spoke lately to an OB and a Tourbillon store (they retail the Swatch Group brands exclusively). While they initially told me June - early July, they now have absolutely no clue about shipping dates for the 1957 collection.
