550 Second pinion friction spring damage?

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So I'm working on my Turler pie-pan, and it'll run no problem... unless the second pinion friction spring is installed. If it is, the movement seems to lock up every few hours (I believe, I want to let the rest of the movement run a while to confirm).

This has stopped 2x now, so it wasn't a fluke (after the 1st time, I adjusted this to attempt for it to be more centered, and poked the second pinion and it started running). 2nd stop I removed this and it fired right back up.

On the underside you can see a divot, but also a weird almost 'polishing' to it? Ive very lightly oiled it, so it is somewhat damp. BUT it looks almost like it ran dry for a while and work-burnished or something?

The back side is the interesting one to me though. The outline of the pinion is visible. I don't think it is a crack, but it is definitely something interesting.

How would everyone go about trying to deal with this? I could possibly put this on the bench block and try to 'burnish' it back to flat/etc with my tweezers, but I also wonder if I should just bite the bullet and replace this part.

WDYT?




 
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You don't oil this spot - it is left dry.

I often see these springs damaged because someone didn't protect them when they pressed the sweep seconds hand in place. This is a damaged one beside a new one:



To prevent these from getting damaged, I was taught in school that you should place a piece of old mainspring between the pinion and the spring, like this:



This keeps the spring from being pressed into the shape of the end of the sweep seconds pinion, like yours has been. I can't say that this is the source of your intermittent stopping issue, but it can lead to erratic movement of the sweep seconds hand. This erratic movement then leads whoever is working on the watch to make the spring apply more force in order to stop the erratic movement, leading to lower balance amplitudes.

Your doesn;t look too damaged really, so you may be able to carefully flatten it out, but if not then a replacement may be needed. But I would also check the tension - it just needs to be enough that the seconds hand doesn't flutter when moving around the dial - test this by holding the watch vertically with 6 to the ground and 12 to the sky, and watch for stuttering as the hand moves from 12 to 6 (you won't see it when the hand is moving "uphill").
 
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You don't oil this spot - it is left dry.

I often see these springs damaged because someone didn't protect them when they pressed the sweep seconds hand in place. This is a damaged one beside a new one:



To prevent these from getting damaged, I was taught in school that you should place a piece of old mainspring between the pinion and the spring, like this:



This keeps the spring from being pressed into the shape of the end of the sweep seconds pinion, like yours has been. I can't say that this is the source of your intermittent stopping issue, but it can lead to erratic movement of the sweep seconds hand. This erratic movement then leads whoever is working on the watch to make the spring apply more force in order to stop the erratic movement, leading to lower balance amplitudes.

Your doesn;t look too damaged really, so you may be able to carefully flatten it out, but if not then a replacement may be needed. But I would also check the tension - it just needs to be enough that the seconds hand doesn't flutter when moving around the dial - test this by holding the watch vertically with 6 to the ground and 12 to the sky, and watch for stuttering as the hand moves from 12 to 6 (you won't see it when the hand is moving "uphill").
Oh wow... there is so much incredible information there I don't know where to start 馃榿 But thank you, that makes a ton of sense!

Good to know it is left dry, I'm glad I asked before finishing up! I'll give flattening it a chance.

The hand installation tip is great too! I would have never thought of that. I don't have my hands on yet, but I'll definitely test that out when I do. I'll try that mainspring trick too!

Thank you so much!
 
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WELP... gods have spoken, I'm getting a replacement. I was cleaning it after some quick flattening/burnishing , and it just disappeared. It was in tweezers, and is now nowhere to be found 馃檨 I'll look later, but it appears this pie pan will NOT be ready to wear this weekend. I guess there's always next 馃榾
 
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I always find it a bonus when a junked plate, like the one I got last week still has this attached.

I made some custom laser etched fixtures, with a setscrew to press against the spring.


I like to keep extras of these around. Just in case one does what @ErichKeane did. Or they break in half when the pinion presses through.

Pinions are the bane though of this design. Never seem to be the correct height. They also tend to trend high in listings.
 
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I always find it a bonus when a junked plate, like the one I got last week still has this attached.

I made some custom laser etched fixtures, with a setscrew to press against the spring.


I like to keep extras of these around. Just in case one does what @ErichKeane did. Or they break in half when the pinion presses through.

Pinions are the bane though of this design. Never seem to be the correct height. They also tend to trend high in listings.
I usually have extra parts around for a lot of my movements, but the Omega 550/601 series watches I get have never been relegated to the 'parts' pile 馃榾

That jig is nice! I might see if I can hop on the lathe and do the same. Else I end up doing some goofy 3-hand supports for this sort of thing.
 
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Well, the Spring managed to return from its trip to space! Pretty sure it brought one of my Speedmasters back with it!

Joking aside: it managed to find itself to a place that a basic understanding of physics would prohibit as a possibility. ALSO, its a place I checked a million times earlier in the day, and it just managed to appear out of thin-air as I was looking again. BUT, its back on the movement for another trial run to see if it'll keep running for an extended period of time.

Thank you again so much @Archer for your help!