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  1. Luca79 Feb 26, 2020

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    I've been studying a lot about pre-moon Speedmasters lately, but I may still miss some details, and with a watch of this caliber that I'm considering getting, I'd better be sure everything is ok.

    What can we tell from the pics of this 2998-6?
    Thank you very much for your help.

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  2. momosono Feb 26, 2020

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    For me a watch with a name engraved (other than my own or that of a relative or else someone extremely well known) is a nono
     
  3. eugeneandresson 'I used a hammer, a chisel, and my fingers' Feb 26, 2020

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    Why don't you tell us what you have learnt, by analyzing this watch you appear to be interested in spending hard earned coin on, so that we can potentially help you along?
     
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  4. Dan S Feb 26, 2020

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  5. bazamu wincer, not a bidder Feb 26, 2020

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    And for others, it adds to the appeal. I personally like them, as it adds to the idea that the watch lived an entire life before it found it's way to you.
     
  6. Luca79 Feb 26, 2020

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    What I’ve learnt suggests me that the dial looks ok, with a nice patina but not abused at all.
    Bezel looks original with DON and in great condition.
    Case condition reflects its age but is coherent with the very good overall watch shape, so maybe it was not even polished.
    Hands look good but I’m not sure about the non-triangular lume.

    As for the overall aesthetic, everyone has his preferences but I’d appreciate your opinion.

    Thanks again
     
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  7. eugeneandresson 'I used a hammer, a chisel, and my fingers' Feb 26, 2020

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    https://speedmaster101.com/blog/2998-alpha-hand-length/
    http://speedmaster101.wpengine.com/blog/and-now-the-alpha-minute-hands-for-the-2998/
    https://speedmaster101.com/blog/further-2998-hand-observations/

    Always tricky with the hands...my feeling (without reevaluating these fantastic pages) is they look good...

    I like it. Its an attractive watch.
     
  8. kingsrider Thank you Sir! May I have another? Feb 26, 2020

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    I don't have a problem with the engraved caseback. German and German delivery point :thumbsup:
    Goss Gerau BGA appears to be an auto service center?
     
  9. Nobel Prize Spell Master! Feb 26, 2020

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    Watch looks good to me ( not a guarantee as I’m not a big expert on this reference)

    curious about that bracelet . Can you take pics of the clasp and interior?
     
  10. Passover Feb 26, 2020

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    I already tried to find out about the engraving:

    "Groß Gerau" is a town in Germany

    In this town there used to be a factory for steel products owned by a family with the name "Faulstroh"


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    Maybe the watch belong to a member of this family...
     
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  11. gemini4 Hoarder Of Speed et alia Feb 26, 2020

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    1) The reference is a 2998-61, not a 2998-6
    2) Is the lume radium or tritium? The later 2998s were where the lume material changed. Need a GC reading to be sure.
    3) IMHO most later 2998s, 105.002s have the triangular lume hour hand. I think MWO indicates that this type of hour hand is correct with a 2998-61 but I think the straight lume hour hand is more prevalent on 2998-1 thru 2998-4 ish
    4) The Certificate from 2007 is perhaps less comfort than a later dated extract (say 2014 to present). It is said that older extracts/certificates contained information provided by the owner and not necessarily verified by Omega files. Example: Modern day Omega extracts do not indicate the sub reference or sales price.
     
  12. chronoboy64 Feb 26, 2020

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    Hi, I think it might be a nice watch.
    But I am a bit confused by the pics you shared. some pics show very worn and matching pushers and on the pic with the caseback the pushers look like new (may be from a different watch).
    Can you explain please ?
    Thanks
     
  13. airansun In the shuffling madness Feb 26, 2020

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    I share that understanding.

    Regarding vintage alpha hands, I’ve also learned that observing the hands in hand (;)) is necessary for me to be sure that a set is correct. I’ve seen modern hands that have been bent to imitate the arch of the originals. (That’s how expensive these hands are these days, particularly those with triangular lume.)

    These particular OP hands do look vintage, from what I can see.
     
  14. Dan S Feb 26, 2020

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    And let's get the full scoop on the dual wedding rings. ;)
     
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  15. MTROIS Feb 26, 2020

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    What about the red box in the last pic? Is that part of the sale?
    Is that a proper format for this watch?
    I know that earlier boxes were rectangular shaped, not square, but not sure about the standard for 2998-61s.
     
  16. watchyouwant ΩF Clairvoyant Feb 26, 2020

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    Service hands and definitely polished case. Which is ok. It is nearly 60 years old......what do you expect? Lume on dial and hands too similar for me, should be more different on different surfaces.....good watch anyway. All comes down to price here. Kind regards. Achim
     
  17. Luca79 Feb 27, 2020

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    What would be a fair price for such a piece?
     
  18. Passover Feb 27, 2020

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    As I see it is offered as "Price on request" did you already contact the seller?
     
  19. marco Feb 27, 2020

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    I too was not keen on engraving but it was pointed out to me it actually adds to its originality and provenance especially if you buy from the person who "is " mentioned on the engraving and know the story regarding the occasion that the watch celebrated.