26 January 2023 - New Speedmaster - Rife Speculation

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Back to speculations though, I'd bet its not moonwatch related at all. The more I think about it, the more I'm leaning towards a refresh of the ceramic speedys which are overdue for an update.

The teaser says #Speedmaster, which is obviously more inclusive than Moonwatch. Also, the CEO said, in an Esquire article, that January would see a new *watch*
 
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Yes, but it's primary function is for tracking Mars time.
It's not for EVA's which for simplicity i imagine they will stick with time frames just as they are measured here on earth.

Right but the X-33 can do both anyways, so why not just wear the X-33 to space? (Other than for tradition)
 
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It's just a friggin' new haispring capable of sustaining mars magnetic field. Hop,here ya go you have another mechanical speedy mars certified.
Ahahah good one!
Even though I think that Mars doesn’t have a magnetic field, hence that specific feature on the Marstimer with the solar compass 😉
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Right but the X-33 can do both anyways, so why not just wear the X-33 to space? (Other than for tradition)

That's the problem with any variant of the X-33.
It doesn't go outside. It's strictly an indoors watch and is not qualified for EVAs.
It can go into space alright but outside it's a dud.
I think the LCD dies first but I'm not sure how well the Quartz part of it works in the longer term anyway.
The X-33 is definately tested for temp ranges in the extreme but the full range of temps that are encountered outside and actually "in space" are outside of its capabilities.
 
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That's the problem with any variant of the X-33.
It doesn't go outside. It's strictly an indoors watch and is not qualified for EVAs.
It can go into space alright but outside it's a dud.
I think the LCD dies first but I'm not sure how well the Quartz part of it works in the longer term anyway.
The X-33 is definately tested for temp ranges in the extreme but the full range of temps that are encountered outside and actually "in space" are outside of its capabilities.

Remember during Russian EVA 54 both Russian ISS expedition 66/67 cosmonauts Oleg Artemyev and Denis Matveev (Soyuz MS-21) wore an Omega Speedmaster X-33 strapped over their Orlan MKS space suits.
It would be interesting to find out how both analog-digital X-33 Speedies coped with the outer space environment !
. #MoonwatchUniverse
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Remember during Russian EVA 54 both Russian ISS expedition 66/67 cosmonauts Oleg Artemyev and Denis Matveev (Soyuz MS-21) wore an Omega Speedmaster X-33 strapped over their Orlan MKS space suits.
It would be interesting to find out how both analog-digital X-33 Speedies coped with the outer space environment !
. #MoonwatchUniverse
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There has been a thread on here fairly recently that's gone into it.
Probably since the release of the Marstimer👎
 
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The teaser is clearly alluding to some sort of technical innovation in a small component. All of the speculation about reconfiguring existing products, materials, etc. seems a bit silly.
 
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The teaser is clearly alluding to some sort of technical innovation in a small component. All of the speculation about reconfiguring existing products, materials, etc. seems a bit silly.

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Why is it silly? Teasers are all about the fun of speculating , guessing, and anticipating . Sure, it’s clearly a technological innovation that will go into a new movement. A new movement means a new watch. I don’t think it’s silly to have some fun discussing it, regardless if it’s speculation on the part in the movement or the entire watch that it’s part of
 
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This is probably a really stupid question, but considering the speculation about the purpose of this spring-looking thing, I'm going to ask anyway. I don't know any watchmakers, so this is probably my best chance to get an answer:

How much energy can be stored in a watch-sized spring? Would it be possible to convert it to enough electrical energy to do anything beyond the quartz regulation in a spring drive? Could you, say, charge a capacitor enough that it could power a burst of a tiny LED to "charge" lume? I assume the energy required for the quartz part of a spring drive is pretty low, so I wasn't sure how much extra electrical energy you could get out of it.

Obviously, that sounds much more like a TAG or Seiko kind of thing than Omega, but I'm curious if it's even possible.
 
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That's the problem with any variant of the X-33.
It doesn't go outside. It's strictly an indoors watch and is not qualified for EVAs.
It can go into space alright but outside it's a dud.
I think the LCD dies first but I'm not sure how well the Quartz part of it works in the longer term anyway.
The X-33 is definately tested for temp ranges in the extreme but the full range of temps that are encountered outside and actually "in space" are outside of its capabilities.

Am I just missing some very subtle sarcasm here? 😕
 
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This is probably a really stupid question, but considering the speculation about the purpose of this spring-looking thing, I'm going to ask anyway. I don't know any watchmakers, so this is probably my best chance to get an answer:

How much energy can be stored in a watch-sized spring? Would it be possible to convert it to enough electrical energy to do anything beyond the quartz regulation in a spring drive? Could you, say, charge a capacitor enough that it could power a burst of a tiny LED to "charge" lume? I assume the energy required for the quartz part of a spring drive is pretty low, so I wasn't sure how much extra electrical energy you could get out of it.

Obviously, that sounds much more like a TAG or Seiko kind of thing than Omega, but I'm curious if it's even possible.

A very complex answer is required here.
Seeing as you mention Spring drive.
One of the critical components of a Springdrive which you refer to, is definately the Mainspring. From my understanding, Seiko had to develop their Spron alloy to make it work as they required with regard to power reserve and their minimum requirement of 48 hrs. There's more to it all, like the polishing of mating surfaces to maximise the efficiency of the Mainspring alloy.
Apparently their extremely efficient Integrated Circuit only requires 1/300,000,000 th of the power required to run an LED(or something like that?)
Another way to express it is if every person on the planet(7 billion) wore a Springdrive, they would collectively generate enough power to run a 175 Watt light bulb.
It's the efficiency of the IC that's a crucial component of the equation.
For reference.
A Blog To Watch has a really great article on the Springdrive that's basically a compulsory read, especially the history part👍

It sort of puts Springdrive in the Seiko Epson context, into highly elevated status.
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Am I just missing some very subtle sarcasm here? 😕

No sarcasm here.
Only puting things into context.
Context is everything.

When I get the chance, I shall try to find that discussion on this forum around the X-33 and its limitations for your reference.
That way you can take or leave what you like from it👍

Regardless, they're not approved for EVAs as far as I know, or it would be plastered around the Caseback at every opportunity.
The fact that the caseback text on the X-33 is very hit and miss raises some valid questions which can't be ignored👎
Don't forget, context is everything and marketing is very good at miss truths and half truths.
Don't buy into what you think they are saying. Look for what they aren't saying👍
 
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No sarcasm here.
Only puting things into context.
Context is everything.

When I get the chance, I shall try to find that discussion on this forum around the X-33 and its limitations for your reference.
That way you can take or leave what you like from it👍

Regardless, they're not approved for EVAs as far as I know, or it would be plastered around the Caseback at every opportunity.
The fact that the caseback text on the X-33 is very hit and miss raises some valid questions which can't be ignored👎
Don't forget, context is everything and marketing is very good at miss truths and half truths.
Don't buy into what you think they are saying. Look for what they aren't saying👍

Hrm yea I'd be interested in that thread. I thought the ESA qualification on both the X-33 Skywalker and Marstimer meant that it could be used in space, including EVA scenarios.

EDIT: Did some googling and found some blogs that confirmed the X-33's LCD screen theoretically cant handle space temps during EVA. Makes sense, and I guess I never really thought much about it. Learned somethin new today.

I still don't think this 1/26 reveal will be a speedy pro marswatch though.
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If the news is about a new hairapring or another component - shouldnt it be used in all Omega models if it is so good? Is it b/c the Speedmaster is the launch model maybe?
 
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If the news is about a new hairapring or another component - shouldnt it be used in all Omega models if it is so good? Is it b/c the Speedmaster is the launch model maybe?
It simply has to be more ground-breaking than that.