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·There are some Youtube videos talking about how much the GP is messing up LV. A lot of the locals that live and work there hate the GP. I don't see this one lasting longer than 2-3 years before being scrapped.
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texasmade
·....that after spending $300-400M?? They could care less about locals hating it, it's all about drawing audiences across the world. They had projected this event to eclipse the Super Bowl, but with less enthusiasm surrounding Max (not exactly Mr. personality) those projections may not hold. Vegas is not going to fold it's tent and leave after 2-3 yrs., I don't see that happening. What I do anticipate that viewership and interest waning if RB continues its dominance, it's not the same as TB12 or others mentioned above, Max is not comparable to Brady or Hamilton who are a lot more charismatic and likeable.
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Evitzee
·Max is not comparable to Brady or Hamilton who are a lot more charismatic and likeable.
The problem isn't Max's personality or RB's dominance, it's the phoniness that has captured much of F1 that has made it less about racing and more about entertainment and social statements.
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texasmade
·Hamilton. Charismatic? I must have been watching another Lewis over the years.
The problem isn't Max's personality or RB's dominance, it's the phoniness that has captured much of F1 that has made it less about racing and more about entertainment and social statements.
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Foo2rama
··Nowhere near as grumpy as he used to be...
Vegas is going to be a glorious SHIT SHOW!!!!!
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Vercingetorix
··Spam RiskYou can hate on Lewis all you want but there's a reason why Lewis is more than just an F1 champion, gets cheered at every GP except Dutch GP, and other athletes and celebrities want to hang out with him. No other driver gets the same respect or love that Lewis gets.
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Foo2rama
··Nowhere near as grumpy as he used to be...
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Doc Savage
·There are some Youtube videos talking about how much the GP is messing up LV. A lot of the locals that live and work there hate the GP. I don't see this one lasting longer than 2-3 years before being scrapped.
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DrmexicoII
·How do my American friends feel about the Vegas track? Looking from the outside in it annoys me that there's proper racing heritage at places like sebring and instead they have to construct some extravaganza in Vegas because... It's Vegas. To me it seems soulless and not much different to those new middle eastern tracks built in the desert. At least in America you have a long and strong tradition of racing, especially endurance, and it would seem more authentic to build an f1 legacy on top of that. To me at least.
But I guess it's the spectacle and liberty media need to pay the bills somehow. Didn't realise until today that they were underwriting the Vegas track. Spent, I think, half a billion so far.
But I guess it's the spectacle and liberty media need to pay the bills somehow. Didn't realise until today that they were underwriting the Vegas track. Spent, I think, half a billion so far.
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Foo2rama
··Nowhere near as grumpy as he used to be...How do my American friends feel about the Vegas track? Looking from the outside in it annoys me that there's proper racing heritage at places like sebring and instead they have to construct some extravaganza in Vegas because... It's Vegas. To me it seems soulless and not much different to those new middle eastern tracks built in the desert. At least in America you have a long and strong tradition of racing, especially endurance, and it would seem more authentic to build an f1 legacy on top of that. To me at least.
But I guess it's the spectacle and liberty media need to pay the bills somehow. Didn't realise until today that they were underwriting the Vegas track. Spent, I think, half a billion so far.
There is a history of racing in Vegas with F1.
Sebring and Laguna Seca need too much upgrading to support F1, and as such most of the historical US tracks are not interested.
my understanding is Watkins Glen could do it but not really any of the others.
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texasmade
·Honestly, I'm not really a fan of the LV track. I really don't think the US needs 3 races in a season.
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Socks
·It's no different than what every city with a street circuit has to go through. It's just those cities are used to it now, and that's why you don't hear them complaining. Vegas could be the same in a few years. Once the locals get used to a little bit of inconvenience, they will stop complaining and get on board with it.
Agreed. In a different time without a MonacoGP and you rocked up at there suggesting you were going to stage an F1 race there would be uproar. It's just that they are used to it, and the setup runs like clockwork.
I'll reserve an opinion until its run!
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DrmexicoII
·There is a history of racing in Vegas with F1.
Sebring and Laguna Seca need too much upgrading to support F1, and as such most of the historical US tracks are not interested.
my understanding is Watkins Glen could do it but not really any of the others.
Yeah I'm aware they've run f1 there before but essentially it was in the car park and no one liked it from what I remember. This one will at least be different (not in a car park) but still feels contrived.
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texasmade
·Yeah I'm aware they've run f1 there before but essentially it was in the car park and no one liked it from what I remember. This one will at least be different (not in a car park) but still feels contrived.
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Foo2rama
··Nowhere near as grumpy as he used to be...Yeah I'm aware they've run f1 there before but essentially it was in the car park and no one liked it from what I remember. This one will at least be different (not in a car park) but still feels contrived.
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Evitzee
·Every street circuit is contrived and has issues. When F1 came to Melbourne in the mid-90s they trucked in huge yachts and lowered them into Albert Park Lake to make it look like Monaco. The lake is shallow, only about 120 acres, 49 ha, in size but they wanted to make the circuit look exotic when the cameras were on Turn 8. That lasted a couple of years until the venue stabilized on the calendar. The first few years it took many months to construct and eventually dismantle the facilities for each race, but now they have the process down so interruption isn't as great. For a fair number of years there was the SAP group (Save Albert Park) that was always picketing and making a nuisance of themselves because they didn't like the idea of racing in the park and that a few trees had to be cut down to make the circuit. They eventually went away. Street circuits are always controversial.
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DrmexicoII
·It's why I loved the F1 calendar during the Covid year. Such brilliant race tracks that sadly can't afford the F1 licence costs. Proper race tracks. There should be 1 race a year that gets voted by fans at an historic track. Alternate it amongst different venues. Gladly do that and ditch all the street circuits to be fair. I know Monaco is historic but it's dull. The only one I like is Azerbaijan.
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Doc Savage
·Honestly, I'm not really a fan of the LV track. I really don't think the US needs 3 races in a season.
I know building roads is crazy expensive, but for something with a year-round benefit, they probably could have split that cost with the state.
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JetLinks
·Can't make it for the inaugural weekend so came to check out the track early....
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Vercingetorix
··Spam Risk21:55 local time is a ridiculous time to have a race. Let the Europeans have to get up early for a change. Seems Formula 1 is following tennis.
