2023 Formula 1 Thread

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Toto almost outsmarted everyone, but brilliant defending by Carlos and Lando.
 
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Another thrilling race..
Mercedes could have actually won, if they'd set George a one-lap target to get past Lando, Lewis was clearly so much faster and they should have swapped places for Lewis to attack for the remaining laps.

Carlos was so on the ball, many laps before the Mercedes caught up with Lando, brilliant racing head on him.. It's in the genes😉
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I was really hoping for a Mercedes 1-2 (or at least 2-3) but in the end George lost his bottle! Hammy was chomping to get past but it wasn't to be! Most exciting race this year and the end to the Red Bull winning streak!

More where that came from please Ferrari and Mercedes!!
 
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Another thrilling race..
Mercedes could have actually won, if they'd set George a one-lap target to get past Lando, Lewis was clearly so much faster and they should have swapped places for Lewis to attack for the remaining laps.

Carlos was so on the ball, many laps before the Mercedes caught up with Lando, brilliant racing head on him.. It's in the genes😉
My first instinct was that Lewis may well have won were the placings reversed, but in hindsight they were never going to switch Russell out of p3 having done the donkey work to bridge the gap after pitting for mediums.

either way, the way Carlos managed lando’s DRS was a master stroke and likely would have been a similar scenario whichever of Lewis/ george were in 3rd. They’d driven the wheels off those cars and likely the tyre advantage was beginning to negate.
 
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My first instinct was that Lewis may well have won were the placings reversed, but in hindsight they were never going to switch Russell out of p3 having done the donkey work to bridge the gap after pitting for mediums.

either way, the way Carlos managed lando’s DRS was a master stroke and likely would have been a similar scenario whichever of Lewis/ george were in 3rd. They’d driven the wheels off those cars and likely the tyre advantage was beginning to negate.

If Mercedes had been shrewd and offered George the caveat that if Lewis can't get past Lando and Carlos, then they'd switch back again, it's a legitimate team tactic that they've used very effectively in the past. Obviously, trust between the teammates is imperative and I have no doubts that Lewis would do the right thing as he has done in the past.

Yes, Carlos was different class today, he's gotten so much more consistent of late, and it's an absolute pleasure to see him now very much on the same level as Leclerc.
 
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If Mercedes had been shrewd and offered George the caveat that if Lewis can't get past Lando and Carlos, then they'd switch back again, it's a legitimate team tactic that they've used very effectively in the past. Obviously, trust between the teammates is imperative and I have no doubts that Lewis would do the right thing as he has done in the past.

Yes, Carlos was different class today, he's gotten so much more consistent of late, and it's an absolute pleasure to see him now very much on the same level as Leclerc.
We’ll never know. Maybe with a couple of laps extra they could have done that, but either way it would have been a stretch to get past Carlos too. Thus George would be left in p4.
 
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We’ll never know. Maybe with a couple of laps extra they could have done that, but either way it would have been a stretch to get past Carlos too. Thus George would be left in p4.

It's likely that once Lewis opened the door, George would have followed through, instead George was carwatching the back of Lando and followed his line into the wall, only George came off far worse than Lando who merely scraped it.
 
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It's likely that once Lewis opened the door, George would have followed through, instead George was carwatching the back of Lando and followed his line into the wall, only George came off far worse than Lando who merely scraped it.
Not sure I agree with that. If George couldn’t get past previously I don’t think it would have made much difference if Lewis had. But hey, it’s all opinion….
 
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Not sure I agree with that. If George couldn’t get past previously I don’t think it would have made much difference if Lewis had. But hey, it’s all opinion….

I agree. If Lando was on his own I think they'd have got through after a few laps but with the DRS Lando had from Carlos I don't think there were enough laps to get past on this circuit. Not to mention they'd probably taken quite a bit out of those mediums by the time they caught up.
 
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I agree. If Lando was on his own I think they'd have got through after a few laps but with the DRS I don't think there were enough laps to get past on this circuit. Not to mention they'd probably taken quite a bit out of those mediums by the time they caught up.

Lewis is a master at looking after his tyres and saving them for an impending battle, he did a significantly better job looking after them than George did, and the speed disparity between the two really showed in the last 3-4 laps; Lewis would have also had DRS together with Lando, but Lando's tyres were significantly older and worse for wear, so Lewis had a much better chance of getting passed than George did.
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I’m still shocked ferrari pulled it off, such a masterful drive from Sainz, he was calm and in control the entire time
 
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The Mercedes looks such a handful at Suzuka, completely unbalanced.
So good to see McLaren being so consistent, and Piastri is on fire, such a talent.
Another excellent qualifying from Liam Lawson, just pipped by Alonso by a tiny fraction; if Ricardo isn't on the money straight away when he comes back, he's gonna be in trouble.
I can't believe how patient James Vowels has been with Logan Sergeant it's a decent thing to do and probably the right thing to do, completely antithetical to Red Bulls' approach, but that seat really needs to go to somebody who can take it to Albon, or at least keep him honest.
 
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The Mercedes looks such a handful at Suzuka, completely unbalanced.
So good to see McLaren being so consistent, and Piastri is on fire, such a talent.
Another excellent qualifying from Liam Lawson, just pipped by Alonso by a tiny fraction; if Ricardo isn't on the money straight away when he comes back, he's gonna be in trouble.
I can't believe how patient James Vowels has been with Logan Sergeant it's a decent thing to do and probably the right thing to do, completely antithetical to Red Bulls' approach, but that seat really needs to go to somebody who can take it to Albon, or at least keep him honest.
Logan has been pretty lame this year. Albon by contrast has driven the wheels off that thing. Maybe the patience with Logan is that the package might not tempt anyone across - thus they’d likely have to bring another rookie in. In that circumstance, maybe Logan will show the benefit of experience but I highly doubt it based on what I’ve seen.

the merc does indeed look terrible, but on the upside they have a good race car and an extra set of hards which might be a good thing.

max out on his own again. Car or not, he’s on a different level to the whole grid. He absolutely aced every corner on the pole lap. Was mesmerising to watch.
 
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Logan has been pretty lame this year. Albon by contrast has driven the wheels off that thing. Maybe the patience with Logan is that the package might not tempt anyone across - thus they’d likely have to bring another rookie in. In that circumstance, maybe Logan will show the benefit of experience but I highly doubt it based on what I’ve seen.

the merc does indeed look terrible, but on the upside they have a good race car and an extra set of hards which might be a good thing.

max out on his own again. Car or not, he’s on a different level to the whole grid. He absolutely aced every corner on the pole lap. Was mesmerising to watch.

Yes sadly, Logan Sergeant really doesn't cut the mustard; I genuinely think Liam Lawson could do a great job partnering Albon in the Williams, he's been outstanding so far..

Yes, Mercedes do tend to have a better race car and it gets better towards the end of the race when the balance changes to something approaching neutrality due to the low fuel.

Verstappen is out on his own, with no challengers and no pressure on his shoulders whatsoever,;in this context, he's doing a very good job. With a consistent challenger/s and under pressure, he's a very different driver.
 
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I've been following Logan Sargeant since his F3 days. Personally, I think he was rushed and would have benefited from a second year in F2. He'll probably have a good career in IndyCars or IMSA/WEC.
 
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So only one seat left for 2024, and with Sargeant regularly costing his team $$$$$ with his crashes it would make sense for Lawson to replace him. Sometimes though sense doesn’t come into it in F1 ($$$$😉), and Lawson being a Red Bull driver complicates things a tad.
 
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I've been following Logan Sargeant since his F3 days. Personally, I think he was rushed and would have benefited from a second year in F2. He'll probably have a good career in IndyCars or IMSA/WEC.

Agreed, he really needed to win a championship in F2, F3, etc. and you've really got to hit the ground running in those feeders to get significant attention for F1; not achieving this (almost) prerequisite and then getting into Formula One is rare, and there's usually a lot of money involved as rob#1 subtly hints at😉. . Yes, he probably would do quite well in Indy, but unfortunately this has tarnished him for F1 .. that is to say, he may get another chance in F1 in the future, but I think it's unlikely.
 
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Normal service resumed, re. Verstappen, he didn't do a thing wrong all weekend. RB is fortunate Max can get out front and motor away because Perez is zero help right now, he's nowhere close to Max in qualifying and his race performance can only be considered as poor right now. Something has to give. We'll see if McLaren can close the gap to RB, Mercedes and Ferrari are pretty meh right now, not even in the hunt most of the time. Singapore was an aberration.
 
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Normal service resumed, re. Verstappen, he didn't do a thing wrong all weekend. RB is fortunate Max can get out front and motor away because Perez is zero help right now, he's nowhere close to Max in qualifying and his race performance can only be considered as poor right now. Something has to give. We'll see if McLaren can close the gap to RB, Mercedes and Ferrari are pretty meh right now, not even in the hunt most of the time. Singapore was an aberration.
Perez was a mess for sure, it feels like he’s now the worst option of the 5 drivers Redbull have now