1970's f300hz advice needed

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I have a 70's Omega DeVille f300 I've had since new. I just replaced the battery with a Renata 344 and the watch now gains time a LOT. It gains 23 seconds per minute.
Does anyone out there have any advice?
Thanks in advance for your help!
 
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I have a 70's Omega DeVille f300 I've had since new. I just replaced the battery with a Renata 344 and the watch now gains time a LOT. It gains 23 seconds per minute.
Does anyone out there have any advice?
Thanks in advance for your help!

Send it to Rob B. in Thailand. He is one of the best tuning fork watch repairers and is very reasonably priced. He has my Accutron right now.

http://members.iinet.net.au/~fotoplot/acc.htm
 
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and before changing the battery the watch keeps good time? or the watch did not have battery for long time?
 
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and before changing the battery the watch keeps good time? or the watch did not have battery for long time?
The watch kept great time before battery change.
 
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Swiss time services in the UK.
 
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Is it possible that it could have become magnetised at some point? If memory serves me right, such a large time gain or loss in a tuning fork movement can be down to magnetism. A cheap and easy fix to try before investing more in repair costs.
 
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I've had pretty good luck using Accucells, in both f300s and 214 Accutrons.
 
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I bought this a year or so ago. The seller put a new Renata 344 battery in. The cal 1250 ran inaccurately.



I sent it to Croydon Watch Services who advised me that it would cost £300 + for a service and setting.

In the meantime, a Forum member in Turkey posted that he had had a similar problem but that he solved it by discarding the modern Renata battery and buying alkaline batteries, compatible with 1970 Watch movements on eBay.

I bought these and the watch runs perfectly although you have to make sure that the battery is seated right. When I’m not wearing it, I pull the crown fully out and the watch doesn’t run until I push it back in and re-set the time.

I believe that the watch was designed with these batteries in mind. They don’t last as long as modern batteries but I reckon that I can buy an awful lot of them for £300.

Hope this helps.

 
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In fact, I’d almost forgotten about it but, prompted by your post I’ve set it and strapped it on.

And my present stock of batteries 😉

 
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Is it possible that it could have become magnetised at some point? If memory serves me right, such a large time gain or loss in a tuning fork movement can be down to magnetism. A cheap and easy fix to try before investing more in repair costs.
In fact, I’d almost forgotten about it but, prompted by your post I’ve set it and strapped it on.

And my present stock of batteries 😉

I don't think so. It was in my safe.
 
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Hi,
I think you’ve included me by mistake.
I wasn’t suggesting that your watch had been magnetized, just that the battery was too modern.
My watch is a 1966 model.
Good luck
Robert
 
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In fact, I’d almost forgotten about it but, prompted by your post I’ve set it and strapped it on.

And my present stock of batteries 😉

I don't think so. It was in my safe.
Regarding the battery. The battery I used is identical to your picture of your watch with the bad timekeeping (Renata 344)
 
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Regarding the battery. The battery I used is identical to your picture of your watch with the bad timekeeping (Renata 344)

Sorry, my mistake.
The photo with the Renata battery was the seller’s, when I bought it.
I discarded it and am currently using, very happily and successfully, the alkaline batteries in the green Tianqui packet, the orange packets are similar but spares.
 
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Regarding the battery. The battery I used is identical to your picture of your watch with the bad timekeeping (Renata 344)
Can you tell me if your watch was running very fast with the original Renata 344?
 
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Yes, about 5+ per day.
With the alkaline battery it’s a chronometer
 
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Can you tell me if your watch was running very fast with the original Renata 344?

The Renata 344 wasn’t the ‘original’ battery. It was the battery the seller (and I suspect other sellers too) installed. I’ve no idea what the battery was when my watch was ‘originally’ on the market (which may no longer be marketed) but, given the way it runs with the alkaline batteries I use, I suspect it was similar.
 
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Can you tell me if your watch was running very fast with the original Renata 344?

I don't think the small differences between an alkaline and silver oxide battery will account for 23 sec per minute gain. Your watch needs a service as it is mostly likely the index jewel is skipping teeth. See: http://members.iinet.net.au/~fotoplot/accindx.htm
 
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I’m not, for a moment, suggesting that it doesn’t need a service. I was told that mine did.

That said, the OF member who contacted me suggested I might try a different battery.

If it hadn’t worked, I’d have had it serviced.

However, the change of battery did make all the difference, and I’m merely passing the information on.

Obviously, if 10 batteries costing £2.00 work all well and good. If they don’t, then the watch can be sent for service.

If the batteries hadn’t worked in my cal 1250, then I’d have sent it for service.
 
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I don't think the small differences between an alkaline and silver oxide battery will account for 23 sec per minute gain. Your watch needs a service as it is mostly likely the index jewel is skipping teeth. See: http://members.iinet.net.au/~fotoplot/accindx.htm

My watch wasn’t skipping teeth, I had no date wheel issues, it was just running fast and the problem was the battery.