1958 Seamaster accuracy question

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Hi, I would like to ask what accuracy would be expected from the 1958 Seamaster I inherited. I also wanted to thank all the members who provided helpful information on my father in laws watch. It was so interesting and especially helpful when I had the springs replaced ( they loved that I had the part #!) and crystal polished.
I manually wound the watch and then wore it for 7 days. Using Timeis as a reference, it lost on average about 25 sec. per day. What should be expected for a cal 501? Also, when I wound it I did about 15 turns. Can it be over wound and cause damage?
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Depends on condition.

I would expect a 60’s 5xx movement in good condition to be less than +/- 10 secs per day after service. Sometimes better.

If it’s losing 30 secs per day and you don’t know when it was last serviced, then it’s overdue
 
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Hi, I would like to ask what accuracy would be expected from the 1958 Seamaster I inherited. I also wanted to thank all the members who provided helpful information on my father in laws watch. It was so interesting and especially helpful when I had the springs replaced ( they loved that I had the part #!) and crystal polished.
I manually wound the watch and then wore it for 7 days. Using Timeis as a reference, it lost on average about 25 sec. per day. What should be expected for a cal 501? Also, when I wound it I did about 15 turns. Can it be over wound and cause damage?
Thanks Again!
"Overwinding" is a meaningless thing. Unless you wind it so hard that the stem/winding works actually breaks/loses teeth, its not a thing.

25s/day is pretty out of reasonable even for these watches. I can usually get my 5xx/6xx movements (and I'm FAR from a watchmaker) to be sub-5s/day in at least 1 orientation (from full-> pretty low wind), and 10s/day in ALL orientations over most amounts of wind.

It sounds like it at least needs a trip to a watchmaker. IF you want confirmation, I'd suggest putting it on a timegrapher(the phone apps are... fine, though I've found them having a tough time the last few I've tried to use).
 
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Great caliber in a great watch. Hope you get it looked after by a watchmaker, and wear in good health.

Hard to overwind. Wind until you feel firm resistance. You will know.
 
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Hello,

As davidt said it depends on the condition of the movement and the service history.

I’d also expect a caliber 501 to be +/-10 sec/day if properly maintained.


Here is an older post from an omega accredited watchmaker (archer) on this caliber :

“Omega specs for the cal. 501 - note that these are measured over only 3 positions, so not 5 as a chronometer would be:

Average daily rate should be between -1 and +21 seconds per day.

Delta over 3 positions at full wind = 40 seconds

Delta over 3 positions at 24 hours after full wind = 50 seconds”

Again, it could be exceeding (in a good way) those metrics but it depends on the condition of the pivots, the poising of the balance wheel, the state of the jewels, etc.

A good watchmaker could address all these.

On a last note, your watch is an automatic so there are no risks of overwinding.
 
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Accuracy on the wrist is a bit of an arbitrary way to measure the health of a movement. More importantly, if you are planning to wear the watch regularly and it hasn’t had a full movement service in the last 5-10 years, then to preserve the movement, it should be serviced. Otherwise parts will be moving against each other without adequate lubrication causing wear and tear that will eventually require parts to be replaced or repaired. For these old movements, it’s better to avoid having to find replacement parts,IMO.
 
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No such thing as over wound. Some watches you simply wind up and they don't unwind because they are dirty/old/grimy. Now, you can break a watch by winding past the stop point breaking the mainspring or some other gear in line with the train. Usually harder to do than you think.

This watch is an automatic so there is no stop point. The mainspring has a clutch to slip when it is fully wound. 10-15 turns is fine.

It's an old watch and you don't know when it was last serviced. If you only wear it occasionally, keep wearing it and live with the 25 sec. If you plan to wear it every day or you want it to run like new, have it serviced.

Oh, and keep it away from water.
 
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Thanks so much to everyone for the detailed answers to my accuracy and winding questions. I plan on wearing it and would like to preserve it, so it's off to the watch maker!
Thanks Again