168.004 dial help please

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Willi

·Aug 12, 2021

Hi OF
I’m only new here but have already benefited so much from some very helpful advice. Thanks!
I’m after some more advice now.

Below is a picture of my latest addition. Been eying off 168.005s but saw this come up. Hoping to pictures showed a dirty dial but it seems pretty damaged now I have it in my hands.
I might be able to source a new old stock mint pie pan dial (I think from a 168.005)
Question 1: Are the pie pan dials interchangeable with this variant.
Question 2: it seems like a good idea to me but is it really?

Thanks in advance

 

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Peemacgee

·Aug 13, 2021

The simple answer is no.
There are slight differences in the sizes of dials for different references.
There are threads about this but you’ll have to have a search for them.

There are also differences in the hand height related to original dial style and dial furniture.

essentially, you need to look for an .004 dome dial to replace the damaged one you have.

hope that helps

 

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padders

·Aug 13, 2021·Oooo subtitles!

Is the OP damaged dial not in fact a pie pan? It has the straight sided polygonal centre shape vs the circular border of the domes. It’s not distinct I agree, they often are not on the 004s,, but I don’t think i it’s a dome. My own PP 004 has much less of an obvious crease at the pan edges than my other PP Connies.

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Peemacgee

·Aug 13, 2021

padders

Is the OP damaged dial mot in fact a pie pan? It has the straight sided polygonal centre shape vs the circular border of the domes. It’s not distinct I agree, they often are not on the 004s,, but I don’t think i it’s a dome. My own PP 004 has much less of an obvious crease at the pan edges than my other PP Connies.

do you know, you’re quite right 🤦
I was looking at the damage rather than the dial itself.
note to self - coffee first, then OF.
I know there is a whole thread discussion about the painted .004 pie pans (versus being dome dial) but if it is the same height as a regular pie pan then my comment about hand height doesn't hold.

 

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Willi

·Aug 13, 2021

Thanks everyone for your prompt replies.
I’m going to do more research here but I am leaning towards ‘not’ at this stage.
Going to try source a new crystal and see if I feel better about it after that. Or might get rotated out.
Thanks again

 

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watchyouwant

·Aug 13, 2021

That NOS dial is not original in my opinion. Look at the heavy oxidised metal markers on a pristine paint.....I don't like that one....

 

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tamura

·Aug 13, 2021

Interesting that no one has noticed the difference between date and no date😁😁

 

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Willi

·Aug 13, 2021

tamura

Interesting that no one has noticed the difference between date and no date😁😁

I was thinking of just covering the date rotating thingey with the new dial.

But yes. Very good point.
Another mark in the ‘against’ column

 

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gatorcpa

·Aug 13, 2021·ΩF InvestiGator

The 168.004 and 168.005 cases are very different. I believe that the .004 dial is a bit larger. So while it is possible that the .005 dial shown would fit inside the .004 case, there could be a gap showing at the edge of the retaining ring of the crystal.

Regarding the .005 dial shown, I think there is a chance it is original, cleaned and relacquered, but would need to see it in person. The photos provided are not good enough.
gatorcpa

 

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Willi

·Aug 14, 2021

Thanks again everyone. I have eliminated the option of replacing with this particular dial for the reasons mentioned above. I will just enjoy it in its aged and tired state.