145.022-69ST

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Hello OF,

I have a 145.022-69ST in front of me that I would love to get a temperature check on where it falls for a 69 -- Is this something to put away or is it pretty run of the mill for this era.

Couple things I would love to get some opinions/thoughts on -
Does this look like original lum material? The pip on the right looks like they missed a bit and it has a little dirty bit on the top of the 2'.
The hands seem to be a discoulored and a bit dirty on the minute hand. Do they look like they have been repainted or does this looks factory..

The bezel is quite nice with very few scratches or chips over all. The '8' of the '80' has something blocking it, possibly dirt.
Pusher tubes have corrosions on the exterior, and the case has some pretty crispy edges and unpolished. The rear of the lugs has some damage from some sloppy spring bar install/uninstall.

The watch needs a service as the hour register no longer resets with the other chrono hand/register. I only plan to have it cleaned and oiled. hoping that the hour register can be fixed with adjustments and not part replacements.
Coloration of the movement looks fairly even across everything, but there is a tarnish on the balance cock and bridges. Screw heads looked rather untouched across the movement except for the movement screw clamps.

Excited about it anyways and diving deeper into the wonderful world of the Speedmaster.
Thank you in advance for lending your expertise around these! Much appreciated.

 
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I’m not sure what your specific questions are but it looks good and original. An attractive watch that I’d be happy to own.
 
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Specific question were if the Lum looked original or a relum, and similarly if the hands looked retouched or not. (but looks like you answered both those😀
Thank you for your comments on it Dan S and Davidt!
 
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It looks like it has the more greenish lume found on some -69s through -74s? I had a -69 with this lume and I found I didn't like it as much as the more watches with the more yellow lume. That being said, the lume is original. The watch looks nice, honest. As long as you personally resonate with it.
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lume original
hands original
very nice example
 
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Do you own the watch? Are you considering buying it?
 
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My "feeling" is that the dial is original and the hands are not.

The lume on the hands is a perfect match. The paint on the hands does not "feel" familiar to that seen on original aged hands.

I stress this is only my opinion and I may be wrong.

Perhaps the best way to put it is that if I was bidding in an auction I would adjust my bidding to take into account the hands are not original. Which Ironically would not be a huge amount.
 
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Nice looking watch - especially the DON bezel. That’s probably the latest serial I’ve seen for a DON. Got in right under the wire!
 
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Lovely example. The handset is really the only detractor for me. The dial, bezel, and case look great.
 
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The dial lume is just like my 69, but the lume on the hands of my 69 is darkened. I don't know if my hands are original or not.
 
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My "feeling" is that the dial is original and the hands are not.

The lume on the hands is a perfect match. The paint on the hands does not "feel" familiar to that seen on original aged hands.

I stress this is only my opinion and I may be wrong.

Perhaps the best way to put it is that if I was bidding in an auction I would adjust my bidding to take into account the hands are not original. Which Ironically would not be a huge amount.
I had a similar feeling about the minute hand as it looks like it has some build up of paint on it. Here is a better photograph of the second hand.

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I had a similar feeling about the minute hand as it looks like it has some build up of paint on it. Here is a better photograph of the second hand.

It looks like paint loss/damage from several services from a careless watchmaker to me.
But yeah that doesn't answer if the hands and dial were born together.
Could consider looking for a nice donor handset for this one!
 
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The dial lume is just like my 69, but the lume on the hands of my 69 is darkened. I don't know if my hands are original or not.
Most of the green-ish lume dials I've seen almost always have dark green-ish handset lume. I vote original 😀
 
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It looks like paint loss/damage from several services from a careless watchmaker to me.
But yeah that doesn't answer if the hands and dial were born together.
Could consider looking for a nice donor handset for this one!
ya after getting in close it does like it was damaged paint and rather than additional coats of paint.
 
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since many years, decades there are s lot of watchmakers, that have done
and do vintage lume abd there work get's better every year

in my opinion the lume in the hands has been done in this way and to the
green-ish lume dial hehad to decide wich colour to use and so hedecide
to use a colour, he often use, because matching to green-ish dial lume
was mot a real good option

i only asume this

it doesn't matter - easy to live wit and easy to change

anyway a nice watch
 
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My 145.022-69 220 error bezel from Sept 1970 with similar minty green indices and yellow hand and sweep lume. Maybe little darker than OP hands? SN 30.589.xxx