Community Stories

?¿ Vintage Omega Genève - Pls Help me ?¿

Jr86
Posts
41
Likes
24
Hi Everybody,

I´m new in the the vintage watches. I have been reading quite a lot, and i think I´m ready for my first purchase. However I have a few doubts about this Omega Geneve watch, specially if it is or not a frankenstein Watch.

The seller claims its 100% original, except the crown and the strap. However I have a few concerns:

1) Looking into OVDB, the Number of the caseback 162.0009, does not match with the caliber 601, neither with the year of the movement serial number, 1962 (27016025). I dont know if it is the caseback that does not belong to the watch or if it is the OVDB that is missing this data?!

2) It´s quite difficult to me to understand if this Geneve model (dial) belongs to the movement cal. 601, and if it´s orginal
3)On the left side of the watch, there is a small opening, i thought it was a damaged, however the seller told me that is from where the watchmaker opens the watch to fix it, is this true?

4) Do you see nay issue or anything wrong with it? what is your opinion? please help me.

Besides, I would like to know what are your opinions on this watch if i should or not buy it, and if you spot any other issues with it. I really appreciate all the comments, knowledge is everything and mine is very limited. Thank you and Merry Xmas

3f49d14a-6e33-45cb-b512-8e441f3fe484.JPG 5c203f53-9599-4a89-9205-058997c11c40.JPG 6d252c50-1e67-43f6-9313-3a79c59debb2.JPG 9b8d58bb-c9e2-4eb5-aacb-da467cfebe4a.JPG 25b74418-1309-43bb-ab1b-0418fc710d40.JPG 163daf74-0572-4655-a593-37e5c35f9e03.JPG 520ff912-d317-45fe-8b8e-eea50375e120.JPG 529bffe2-497b-4e65-b227-e4ec43ff8d30.JPG 3f49d14a-6e33-45cb-b512-8e441f3fe484.JPG 5c203f53-9599-4a89-9205-058997c11c40.JPG 6d252c50-1e67-43f6-9313-3a79c59debb2.JPG 9b8d58bb-c9e2-4eb5-aacb-da467cfebe4a.JPG 25b74418-1309-43bb-ab1b-0418fc710d40.JPG 163daf74-0572-4655-a593-37e5c35f9e03.JPG 520ff912-d317-45fe-8b8e-eea50375e120.JPG 529bffe2-497b-4e65-b227-e4ec43ff8d30.JPG
 
janice&fred
Posts
4,593
Likes
10,789
cool you're getting into watches! she's a vintage watch and sometimes things like crowns and crystals get replaced. the watch looks alright for it's age and I guess it's just a matter of price.
 
Rochete
Posts
1,232
Likes
5,681
Caseback belongs to automatic watch, not manual like this one. Crown not Omega.
 
janice&fred
Posts
4,593
Likes
10,789
yea I think the OP already figured that. I suppose price will be the deciding factor. for someone just getting into vintage and wants a fun wearer then this watch could be a cheap way to scratch that itch and get started.
 
Jr86
Posts
41
Likes
24
Thank you for the comments. The seller wants 270 euros for the watch.. not sure what to do ?

I have been thinking, if the only issue is the crown and caseback, maybe I could buy them as NOS, so then I get the watch in perfect conditions. However I’m not sure what is the right caseback for this dial and mechanism, do you know? I could figure it out looking at the Omega database..
 
Jr86
Posts
41
Likes
24
Another thing is if this dial is right for this mechanism?
 
dx009
Posts
1,155
Likes
590
It's always sad (and disappointing) when people cobble up watches which is what this might be.
It kind of seems to be a bit of a franken watch...

You can add 100-200 more euros and buy a proper fully genuine one.
 
Rochete
Posts
1,232
Likes
5,681
Jr86 Jr86
Thank you for the comments. The seller wants 270 euros for the watch.. not sure what to do ?

I have been thinking, if the only issue is the crown and caseback, maybe I could buy them as NOS, so then I get the watch in perfect conditions. However I’m not sure what is the right caseback for this dial and mechanism, do you know? I could figure it out looking at the Omega database..

Makes little to no sense, since after buying those parts NOS and installing them the total cost will most probably exceed the price of a fully original watch.
 
VetPsychWars
Posts
2,326
Likes
1,884
The crown may not cost a lot if you can for example buy it on eBay. The caseback is another story.

Tom
 
janice&fred
Posts
4,593
Likes
10,789
dx009 dx009
It's always sad (and disappointing) when people cobble up watches which is what this might be.
It kind of seems to be a bit of a franken watch...

You can add 100-200 more euros and buy a proper fully genuine one.

well I suppose a lot of these cobbled-up watches are the result of a watch maker having parts laying around and decided to put something together. so it's kinda ok for me as projects like that are neat and better to put the parts to good use and make a usable watch out of them...as long as it's made known if selling the thing and it's priced accordingly. I would have no qualms buying that watch the OP pictured for $100 to $150 as a cheap wearer.
 
Dan S
Posts
20,168
Likes
46,825
I agree with what has been stated above. There is too much wrong with the watch to make it a worthwhile investment as a restoration project: scratched and moldy dial, polished case, incorrect case-back. Given that it's an entry-level piece, there is not enough upside potential. Research would be required even to determine the correct reference and finding the correct case-back could take a long time. If you are looking to buy a vintage Omega watch to start a collection, this is not the watch for you. Save your money and buy something better.

However, if you don't care about originality and are not looking to collect watches, and you just want to wear a vintage-looking watch on your wrist, then offer the seller 100 Euros and wear it for fun, especially if you have a watchmaker who can service it very inexpensively.
 
dx009
Posts
1,155
Likes
590
janice&fred janice&fred
well I suppose a lot of these cobbled-up watches are the result of a watch maker having parts laying around and decided to put something together. so it's kinda ok for me as projects like that are neat and better to put the parts to good use and make a usable watch out of them...as long as it's made known if selling the thing and it's priced accordingly. I would have no qualms buying that watch the OP pictured for $100 to $150 as a cheap wearer.

Yes, there are watches cobbled up because of lack of parts (a forced franken so to speak) but there are also watches being made that way with the intent to deceive and make money off newbies. If you do put up such watches for sale then you should mention all the "modifications".
 
Jr86
Posts
41
Likes
24
Thank you all for your support, I really appreciate. I still have a lot to learn, however I went back to the seller and I will be looking for another deals, instead.

Thx and Merry Xmas
 
Sign up or log in to reply...

Similar threads

I

Vintage Omega Geneve

ITemplarI Vintage Omega Watches Help, Discussion and Advice
X350 XJR
X350 XJR
Posts
4
Views
2K
L

Is this a rare Vintage Omega Geneve watch?

Linus Eike Vintage Omega Watches Help, Discussion and Advice
S
Simonn1993
Posts
8
Views
3K
menphrad

Vintage Omega Genève: 132.014, 132.041 or 132.019?

menphrad Vintage Omega Watches Help, Discussion and Advice
dootcho
dootcho
Posts
6
Views
2K
Mkewatch

Vintage Omega Geneve ref. 136.041 Black Dial

Mkewatch Vintage Omega Watches Help, Discussion and Advice
X350 XJR
X350 XJR
Posts
4
Views
2K
M

Vintage Omega Geneve (possibly ref. 2903)

matmunk Vintage Omega Watches Help, Discussion and Advice
Davidt
Davidt
Posts
6
Views
1K
L

Workshop is charging 310 USD to restore my Vintage Omega Geneve?

Linus Eike Vintage Omega Watches Help, Discussion and Advice
nkhandekar
nkhandekar
Posts
17
Views
3K