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your thoughts on the Rolex "President" (ref1803)

  1. al128 unsolicited co-moderation giverer Dec 26, 2015

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    I do have a somehow soft spot for vintage rolexes (way more than new ones - probably due to the type of "wearer") ...

    and one model that always caught my attention was the 1803 ... possibly due to the fact that it once was - in a certain way - the creme-de-la-creme of watches and now is quite affordable ...

    I guess the fact that YG has fallen out of favor probably helps to keep the premium (vs. steel watches) rather low ...

    one drawback (at least for me personally) is the non quick-set feature for both the day and date - I rotate my watches regularly and do not wear them longer than 1-2 days - so this is a hassle ...

    on the other hand, 36mm is pretty much the sweetspot for any vintage watch - so that is a nice "no-nonsense" size.

    what are your thoughts on the 1803 from a vintage/collector's pov?

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  2. Canuck Dec 26, 2015

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    To the best of my knowledge, this watch is just called the Day Date. It is the bracelet meant to fit it that is called the "President". Just like watches meant to have the "Jubilee" bracelet are not called the Jubilee model! Small point I know.
     
  3. Darlinboy Pratts! Will I B******S!!! Dec 26, 2015

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    I like these, and agree with you that they can be found for a good price today. For me they are attractive in size and appearance, but the non-quickset movement stays my hand.

    The hands on the example you show are replacements I think.
     
  4. adam78 Adam @ ΩF Staff Member Dec 26, 2015

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    I think this is a "semi-quickset", like modern Nomos and cal. 504-562 Omegas, only you have to go back to 6:00 instead of 9:00. Still, not too bad. The day of the week has to be set in slow fashion, but that's only 6 days at most. I have wanted one with "wide-boy" dial and hands, but dealers' prices seem higher than they should these days, given that gold has dropped about 20% in the past year, and that these are not the most collectible Rolex model...
     
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  5. arkstfan Dec 26, 2015

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    For me it hits the sweet spot.
    Interesting complications since full day names are not that common.
    Nice enough for formal occasion, office, and many casual activities.
     
  6. nightowl Dec 26, 2015

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    Personally I like them, but do miss a steel version. A gold (yellow or white) one with leather strap is in my future. As mentioned, the lack of any quick-set in the pre 1977 calibers makes them a bit of a hassle. Post 1977 or post 1988 would probably be more useful. Although, if I would work a while in Dubai, sporting a lot of yellow gold is probably highly recommended and that would make a pre 1977 a daily wear :whistling:
     
  7. Privateday7 quotes Miss Universe Dec 26, 2015

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    I own a 1803 with sigma pie pan dial which used to belong to my father. It is an attractive watch, which gain popularity among collectors recently, due to latest day-date Phillips auction.

    As for the non quick set date .... I never set up up the day and the date...too much hassle, since like you, I only use 1-2 days in rotation
     
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  8. Traveler Dec 26, 2015

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    I love my 1962 'Prez head' in 18k WG .... unfortunately my OCD got the better of me, and I seem to have buggered it up setting the day/date ... Looking at @adam78 's helpful guide above, I was probably doing it at one of the 'wrong' times or something... So it will be off to the mothership for fixing once I get back to NYC. Here it is before I put a spanner in the works...
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  9. ulackfocus Dec 26, 2015

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    I dig those mid 60's Oyster cases. The Day/Date and the Zephyr are two of my favorite dressier Rolexes.
     
  10. al128 unsolicited co-moderation giverer Dec 27, 2015

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    I really like how this great WG stays way under the radar (for the regular joe doe) - but you still might get the "nod" from connoceurs ;-)
     
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  11. pitpro Likes the game. Dec 27, 2015

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    if you like that, you'll love the platinum
     
  12. blubarb Dec 27, 2015

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    My thoughts on the Day Date? I thought about it once and as they say it's the thought that counts.
     
  13. adam78 Adam @ ΩF Staff Member Dec 27, 2015

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    Especially with the diamond bezel...:rolleyes:
     
  14. PatrickJ Dec 27, 2015

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    Fantastic watch
     
  15. Baco Noir Dec 27, 2015

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    I had the Tudor day date jumbo (38mm) for a while and loved it. 36mm would be too small for me. I sold it after a year or so due to the non-quickset date feature. Even when kept on a winder, if there are not 31 days that month, you spend a lot of time setting it.
     
  16. saturn1981 Dec 28, 2015

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    One problem, Too darn expensive
     
  17. Privateday7 quotes Miss Universe Dec 28, 2015

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    On contrary, since there are so many 1803 out there, which mostly in good condition, you can buy 1803 complete with president gold bracelet for similar price of 1675 GMT Pepsi or far less than 5513 Submariner of similar period and condition.

    ....but again, expensive is always a relative term.
     
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  18. NT931 Dec 28, 2015

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    Coincidentally I was looking at the Tudor Day-Date Jumbo (ref 7017) last week too. I remember @Hijak had a black one too.

    Missed a blue one on sale here a few months ago. Do they wear like a 38mm should - ie. true to size?
     
  19. saturn1981 Dec 28, 2015

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    It fluctuates with gold prices. Gold when down in price so that means the watch should be cheaper.
    Doesn't it?
     
  20. Privateday7 quotes Miss Universe Dec 28, 2015

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    Not necessarily. While gold price down almost half from the peak of 2012, Rolex 1803 price remained stable during that period in my observation. In the other hand steel sporty vintage Rolex price climbed significantly. I believe demand side play higher role in this vintage Rolex price equation, rather than price of the metal base.
     
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