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Would you go for a ed white with replacement dial and hands?

maumerstrubbi
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Hi their omegaforum community,

Would you guys go for a ed white speedmaster 105.003 63 with correct case engravings and period correct movement serial number if the dial and hands where replaced but the price is below 3k€?

I am looking at one with wrong dial and hands / service parts. The rest appears genuine and original.

Would you guys consider buying such a piece for less than 3k if you where able to get it for such a low price?

Or would you say stay away regardless of a low price?

I would buy it as a watch that I could wear regularly to work and stuff after a movement service. So I would mind it really that those parts aren’t original anymore but I am just wondering if it would be a good deal considering not everything is original/time period correct.

Thanks upfront for your advice.

Below is a picture of the dial and hands:

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OneTwo
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Personally I would stay way away from this hodgepodge’d piece. Bezel is also a modern replacement and from the proportions of the chamfers, case might also have seen a polish. Would need to see a photo of the back for other comments, but so far big pass on this one.
 
maumerstrubbi
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Ok so the first opinion and answer is a hard pass 🫣😉
And good input that the bezel is a replacement as well. That’s what I wasn’t sure about so I didn’t mention it before.

Here are some more pics:

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OneTwo OneTwo
Personally I would stay way away from this hodgepodge’d piece. Bezel is also a modern replacement and from the proportions of the chamfers, case might also have seen a polish. Would need to see a photo of the back for other comments, but so far big pass on this one.
I actually consider the case to be in interesting condition - not to badly polished or am I wrong on this as well 🫣😉
 
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The dial is an incorrect service dial. The hands, bezel, crown and pushers have been replaced. The case has been fully refinished to (incorrectly) mimic the FOIS, not the true form of the 105.003-65.

3k in what - £, €, $US, $Aus?

If you could get it under say £3k and we’re ok with the service items, I don’t think it’s a bad buy as a beater.
 
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Davidt Davidt
The dial is an incorrect service dial. The hands, bezel, crown and pushers have been replaced. The case has been fully refinished to (incorrectly) mimic the FOIS, not the true form of the 105.003-65.

3k in what - £, €, $US, $Aus?

If you could get it under say £3k and we’re ok with the service items, I don’t think it’s a bad buy as a beater.
Thank you so much for the fast reply and the isightful feedback to its condition. So I am learning and can summarize that more or less everything has been worked on and almost all parts have been replaced or worked on except for the movement.

So I will see what I can get it for. And I actually like the appeal of it and considering what has been replaced and reworked I will see what I will
Do. I mean I wouldn’t want this one as a collectors item but for one where u could also Time stuff at work (which I need to on a daily basis). The second opinion is: if i am going to get it for way less than 3k€ I could consider it as a beater but not as a collectors piece. 😎

So I will have to see what I could get it for. 🤗
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maumerstrubbi
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Lately I am wearing this 7750 chrono from the 90s as a daily beater:

But I am getting a bit bored of it and want to switch it up a little bit 😇😉

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maumerstrubbi
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Nevermind an admin can close this thread if want to and deem necessary to do so…. 🤗😉
The seller revoked the offer and put it on eBay as an auction and stated in the article all the above mentioned details that the bezel dial and hands have been replaced during service.

It Probably still will go for more than what he ask for before. Since we all know eBay and the prices some people are willing to pay for all kinds of watches.
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This kind of service updated watch is the kiss of death, in my opinion. I would never consider buying this watch except to resell as parts. it simply is no longer a vintage watch, to me. If you want the real thing, this is not the right choice. There are plenty out there to be found with original dial and hands. At least get one with a nice, attractive orig. dial. Hands can be found or aged.
 
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maumerstrubbi maumerstrubbi
Nevermind an admin can close this thread if want to and deem necessary to do so…. 🤗😉
The seller revoked the offer and put it on eBay as an auction and stated in the article all the above mentioned details that the bezel dial and hands have been replaced during service.

It Probably still will go for more than what he ask for before. Since we all know eBay and the prices some people are willing to pay for all kinds of watches.
I would not expect it to do well at all on ebay. It is no longer desireable. I honestly feel a little silly for commenting in this thread after reading all the posts above. Please disregard everything I have typed.
 
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elephantcage elephantcage
I would not expect it to do well at all on ebay. It is no longer desireable. I honestly feel a little silly for commenting in this thread after reading all the posts above. Please disregard everything I have typed.
thanks for your honest reply and I will definitely not go for it and bid on it anymore considering the input I got during the day and especially now by you. I am glad you did leave this blunt and honest answer here! Thank you!

I will keep you updated with the auction result of this watch. I am pretty sure it will hit around 2.5-3k€
But I would also gladly accept to be proven to be proven wrong with that prediction…
 
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I haven't checked in recent years, but a nice, legit 321 movement has to be worth a couple thousand clams (US clams). The case and back are worth more than 1k, likely. The service parts altogether...maybe 500? I should have been more clear when I said it would not do well at auction. Well would, to me, be over 5 or 6k. (usd) Of course that's still well below what a nice orig. brings. There are plenty for sale, but I suspect they sit for months and never sell at 12k to 17k.
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elephantcage elephantcage
I haven't checked in recent years, but a nice, legit 321 movement has to be worth a couple thousand clams (US clams). The case and back are worth more than 1k, likely. The service parts altogether...maybe 500? I should have been more clear when I said it would not do well at auction. Well would, to me, be over 5 or 6k. (usd) Of course that's still well below what a nice orig. brings. There are plenty for sale, but I suspect they sit for months and never sell at 12k to 17k.
Ok I get it now and understand how you meant it. And then I agree with you - an I think I have to agree with you that it will not get close to those 5-6k…. 🙌🙌
 
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One of the first 105.003s I owned I bought in about 1990. The owner had sent it to Omega for complete overhaul, but he had no idea that the update would kill its collectible value. Fortunately, he kept every part, dial, hands, worn bezel, pushers, everything. I put all the old parts back on and sold the service parts. Good luck finding the right watch.
 
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If the listing is started with a low initial bid and many people get involved, eBay can always surprise.

Midcase/caseback and movement will likely be the drivers for people collecting parts.
 
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