With increased local armed robberies, I’m no longer wearing Rolexes

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" ...most illegal gun crime " and " legal gun ownership " in one sentence? Oh Dear..... Take Standy's advice. Get out of there.

I live in Jersey but it's no less ridiculous here.
 
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Folks will have as just as much crime as they are willing to tolerate. Our societies will be found to tolerate a lot.

Say what y'all will about Texas, but it's pretty idyllic here in Texas except for certain very large cities which suffer from being run much like most other very large cities in the United States. This clip could just as easily be me ... in our neighborhood ... within our community.


Feel free to post humorous clips poking fun at Texans. I'm willing to laugh at myself too.
You would be the rare exception.
 
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Within the past thirty days I worked with two guys who were given jail sentences. One started at 4 years, knocked down to a year which was then given a year suspended after six months. Ended up serving 23 days.

The second case just ended today. Guy sentenced to 364 days knocked down to a two week jail sentence which started Friday (this past Friday) I got a call to pick him today at 11am so he ended up serving 3 days which less than the power reserve on my entry level Rado.

I talked to the discharge officer (counselor) at the county jail she said this is common practice now due to low staffing in the jail and Covid outbreaks. It’s like they don’t want to hold people (or unable to).

I’m sure the uptick it crime is multifaceted inflation (economic) conditions certainly play a large part. I don’t want to judge the entire jail system by two cases but talking to lawyers, jail employees and of course inmates I’m sure this is not helping the situation. Poor girl I talked to had to work a triple shift due to staff shortage.

Neither of the two I mentioned are prone to rob you of your watch, well one of them maybe and the other only if he was intoxicated. Which is most of the time. Strange times.
 
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As Jeff Cooper said:
If violent crime is to be curbed, it is only the intended victim who can do it. The felon does not fear the police, and he fears neither judge nor jury. Therefore, what he must be taught to fear is his victim.

It wasn't always this way, but it is now. Keep your head up, your eyes and ears open, enjoy the rewards you've earned in life, and don't let criminals or the fear of them rob you of that. If you have to, fight back. We should organize a Wear all your Gold Watches Day. We could carry signs that say "Let Them Eat Quartz Watches."
 
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We should organize a Wear all your Gold Watches Day. We could carry signs that say "Let Them Eat Quartz Watches."

Good plan John. I'll strap on our 1803 and 14k Deville and take a stroll down Congress Ave. in the historic downtown section of New Haven this afternoon. I'll wear my usual clothes of choice - Hawaiian shirt and shorts, hold my head up high and stay alert so I can see which of the lowrider Toyotas slams on the brakes first. 😁
 
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Good plan John. I'll strap on our 1803 and 14k Deville and take a stroll down Congress Ave. in the historic downtown section of New Haven this afternoon. I'll wear my usual clothes of choice - Hawaiian shirt and shorts, hold my head up high and stay alert so I can see which of the lowrider Toyotas slams on the brakes first. 😁
For a very wealthy state, some of Connecticut’s cities have appallingly poor, and dangerous, neighborhoods. New Haven, Bridgeport, Hartford and Norwalk all have areas where it would be unwise to be seen wearing a luxury watch. I worked in New Haven in the early 80s and I remember feeling very uncomfortable walking to my car after dark.
 
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For a very wealthy state, some of Connecticut’s cities have appallingly poor, and dangerous, neighborhoods. New Haven, Bridgeport, Hartford and Norwalk all have areas where it would be unwise to be seen wearing a luxury watch. I worked in New Haven in the early 80s and I remember feeling very uncomfortable walking to my car after dark.
I do some work in all of those cities the only one these days that really makes me feel uneasy in certain areas is Hartford but it could be because I don’t know the streets that well, either that or the crossfire.
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I do some work in all of those cities the only one these days that really makes me feel uneasy in certain areas is Hartford but it could be because I don’t know the streets that well, either that or the crossfire.
I would think it would be New Haven- we know the types of people that Yale graduates 🙄
 
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I would think it would be New Haven- we know the types of people that Yale graduates 🙄
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Being serious (for a change) I do think we should all listen to our gut more and react to it. A very famous footballer died in a plane crash off the UK and I was struck by this quote which I read tonight -

The footballer had also expressed his fears about the aircraft in a voice note sent to his closest friends as the plane was taxiing on the runway at Nantes Atlantique Airport. The player told them, "man, I'm scared" and that the plane he was on "looks like it's falling apart". "I don't know if someone will look for me because they won't find me," Mr Sala told his friends about a potential crash.

We are all stuck in a social construct and don’t want to offend - but if you feel something is wrong strongly, it is better to act on your gut feel.

On that social point it also make me think about social and asocial violence. Even a typical watch mugging is to a degree transactional /social violence - give up your watch easily and there will be minimal collateral damage. That might be the best outcome.
Asocial violence is rarer but it is a zero sum game.

Maybe we all need to be alert to the fact that some violence is still just the monkey game which can be predatory and or ego driven, but has rules (social violence). It is possible to negotiate. Rarer but far more dangerous, it can be or become asocial, which has no rules and is a zero sum game for all concerned. Better to talk your way out of the first one but be alert and prepared to go all the way if the second scenario looks to apply.

It can also flip - I read about a sad case in the UK - the guy was mugged / social violence. They regrouped and realised despite having his stuff that he could ID them. They then chased and killed him with no mercy - it flipped into Asocial no rules violence and the poor murdered victim was unprepared for that.
 
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Being serious (for a change) I do think we should all listen to our gut more and react to it. A very famous footballer died in a plane crash off the UK and I was struck by this quote which I read tonight -

The footballer had also expressed his fears about the aircraft in a voice note sent to his closest friends as the plane was taxiing on the runway at Nantes Atlantique Airport. The player told them, "man, I'm scared" and that the plane he was on "looks like it's falling apart". "I don't know if someone will look for me because they won't find me," Mr Sala told his friends about a potential crash.

We are all stuck in a social construct and don’t want to offend - but if you feel something is wrong strongly, it is better to act on your gut feel.

On that social point it also make me think about social and asocial violence. Even a typical watch mugging is to a degree transactional /social violence - give up your watch easily and there will be minimal collateral damage. That might be the best outcome.
Asocial violence is rarer but it is a zero sum game.

Maybe we all need to be alert to the fact that some violence is still just the monkey game which can be predatory and or ego driven, but has rules (social violence). It is possible to negotiate. Rarer but far more dangerous, it can be or become asocial, which has no rules and is a zero sum game for all concerned. Better to talk your way out of the first one but be alert and prepared to go all the way if the second scenario looks to apply.

It can also flip - I read about a sad case in the UK - the guy was mugged / social violence. They regrouped and realised despite having his stuff that he could ID them. They then chased and killed him with no mercy - it flipped into Asocial no rules violence and the poor murdered victim was unprepared for that.
I don’t carry a weapon, well at least a lethal one as in the past I had terrible road rage which fortunately I have gotten over and these days I rarely even use my horn.
Regardless I can understand the desperation to steal, or understand the gang mentality of targeting whom you perceive as the wealthy and being in an organized theft ring. I can’t grasp how one could dehumanize their victim where they would be shot and killed when the crime is completed, the victim complied, and the goal has been accomplished. I feel bad for a day or two if I run over an animal in the street.

I have talked to such people who committed such crimes when they were 18 and 20-30 years later they leave jail with deep remorse, most of the time we are different people at 40 than we were at 18 but then you have 40 and 50 year old guys still committing such crimes.

Also in the US just because you have a gun permit it doesn’t naturally grant you the right to shoot someone because your licensed and in danger. My area has no castle or self defense laws to speak off so even if you are “protecting yourself and your belongings ” you will probably go bankrupt with lawyers fees and end up with charges anyway. I’m not interested in taking someone’s life over possessions and I’m pretty sure my risks of dying driving somewhere are much higher than getting robbed.

We make the decisions we feel are the best and carry on, what else can you do. A break in of my home when it’s occupied may turn out differently but we have a pretty good neighborhood crime watch so I’m not living in fear of that.
 
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I don’t carry a weapon, well at least a lethal one as in the past I had terrible road rage which fortunately I have gotten over and these days I rarely even use my horn.
Regardless I can understand the desperation to steal, or understand the gang mentality of targeting whom you perceive as the wealthy and being in an organized theft ring. I can’t grasp how one could dehumanize their victim where they would be shot and killed when the crime is completed, the victim complied, and the goal has been accomplished. I feel bad for a day or two if I run over an animal in the street.

I have talked to such people who committed such crimes when they were 18 and 20-30 years later they leave jail with deep remorse, most of the time we are different people at 40 than we were at 18 but then you have 40 and 50 year old guys still committing such crimes.

Also in the US just because you have a gun permit it doesn’t naturally grant you the right to shoot someone because your licensed and in danger. My area has no castle or self defense laws to speak off so even if you are “protecting yourself and your belongings ” you will probably go bankrupt with lawyers fees and end up with charges anyway. I’m not interested in taking someone’s life over possessions and I’m pretty sure my risks of dying driving somewhere are much higher than getting robbed.

We make the decisions we feel are the best and carry on, what else can you do. A break in of my home when it’s occupied may turn out differently but we have a pretty good neighborhood crime watch so I’m not living in fear of that.
Owning and/or carrying a gun for self defense is largely an illusion. Most people who carry aren't formally trained in the use of firearms and either freeze or fail to react quickly enough to prevent themselves from becoming a victim when a crime occurs. The statistics tend to show that gun ownership actually raises the risk of injury or death to the gun owner and/or his or her family members. Other than rifles owned for hunting, handguns and semi-authomatic or automatic weapons are really best left in the hands of law enforcement and the military. The best home defense is a dog, preferably a sizeable one with a strong growl/bark. On the street, common sense is your best friend. If you know where you shouldn't be, don't go there, especially after dark.
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The best home defense is a dog, preferably a sizeable one with a strong growl/bark. On the street, common sense is your best friend. If you know where you shouldn't be, don't go there, especially after dark.

So that is what a Gundog is.......
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I would think it would be New Haven- we know the types of people that Yale graduates 🙄

Ok Ok let's call a truce. Us chosen must stick together. Even if you are an annoying verbose anal pain in the butt.

Go Bulldogs!
 
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Ok Ok let's call a truce. Us chosen must stick together. Even if you are an annoying verbose anal pain in the butt.

Go Bulldogs!
I was talking about our “elected”/selected political leaders that all seem to have gone through New Haven…I guess you were the counter-point, Fred.
Nothing but love, man.
 
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Be alert...the world needs more lerts...
…and more lerts will be manufactured by chugging the almighty Dunkin’…

 
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This is so awesome - I immediately thought the same thing!
The show has aged incredibly well and remains far more popular in syndicaiton than it ever was when it originally aired. The cast was top notch. Sadly, Tina Louise is the last living cast member now. Jim Backus as Mr. Howell often stole the show and the "Yale man" comment was used more than once, often as his description of the local headhunters.
 
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…and more lerts will be manufactured by chugging the almighty Dunkin’…

Be careful no one mugs you for those socks.
 
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I was talking about our “elected”/selected political leaders that all seem to have gone through New Haven…I guess you were the counter-point, Fred.
Nothing but love, man.

Ah but you forgot that earlier in this thread I posted how i was shot in a Yale parking lot. I thought your wise-crack re-Yale graduates was directed toward me. So...not only did you prompt me to reveal my self-centered opinion that everything is about me, you triggered post traumatic stress responses and now I'm afraid to go into ANY parking lots. Expect a registered letter next week.