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· ·Prolific Speedmaster HoarderOn offer from a good seller, this 105.003 has an interesting dial.
The price is $10,000 from HQ Milton. Link here
a nice Ed White will still require over $20,000 for a good one. So at this asking price, we should see if there is anything to learn.
I know many (most?) will dismiss this as a damaged overposlished poor condition watch, but I think it has something, even if not as much as the asking.
The heart of the watch is the dial, then the bezel.
This dial is faded, tropicalised. However it is also damaged, and I would say quite severely. The print is badly missing at 4 to 5 markers. The dial surface has an interesting fade, but not the kind of fade that I would place a premium on it. The markers themselves are also degraded. The T SWISS MADE T is mostly missing. It is not a fine, nor valuable dial. I do find it interesting.
The bezel looks awful. I have a feeling that the lighting is not doing it any favours and it may be better in the metal - it is still not a bezel I find attractive.
Crown and pushers look original and that is positive.
I would say the case is quite polished - but all straight lug speedmasters seem to have some sort of polishing.
call me a philistine but polished cases on straight lug speedmaster don’t put me off if other attributes draw me in.
The movement has an average amount of watchmaker evidence, without anything bad in terms of condition. The dust cover is a modern service replacement.
The reason this watch deserves discussion is that two to three years ago, an Ed White for under $10,000 was saleable on price alone, if it was complete and original parts.
Now, we are in different times. We cannot confirm this movement through the archives, and this is a big stumbling block. Previously we could have allocated a big chunk of value to a confirmed Ed White movement - this cannot be confirmed at this time, although the number looks to fall into accepted range.
I think the dial is too far gone to allocate value, but I do find it interesting. But not valuable.
The bezel may well be better than it looks.
case is acceptable , and they look original pushers which is not as common today as you might think.
The question I ask, is this watch saleable at this level? HQM is a trustworthy dealer whose expertise is in Rolex, and I have in the past managed to buy nice speedmasters from them, and at other times looked at their speedmasters wondering why they bought them. What I like is that they often have quirky watches like this.
Another way to think about this. If we take off dealer premium, then I think of this watch at $8,000. Do I think it’s worth it? Not sure.
$6,000 ? Yes, that’s my no brainier buy button…
$7,000 ? not sure
$8,000 not today.
Can I find another Ed White for $10,000? Not easily.
![IMG_0416.jpeg IMG_0416.jpeg](https://omegaforums.net/data/attachments/1715/1715508-1e19fb8eacf5cd54e7a44f909edcb808.jpg?hash=Hhn7jqz1zV)
The price is $10,000 from HQ Milton. Link here
a nice Ed White will still require over $20,000 for a good one. So at this asking price, we should see if there is anything to learn.
I know many (most?) will dismiss this as a damaged overposlished poor condition watch, but I think it has something, even if not as much as the asking.
The heart of the watch is the dial, then the bezel.
This dial is faded, tropicalised. However it is also damaged, and I would say quite severely. The print is badly missing at 4 to 5 markers. The dial surface has an interesting fade, but not the kind of fade that I would place a premium on it. The markers themselves are also degraded. The T SWISS MADE T is mostly missing. It is not a fine, nor valuable dial. I do find it interesting.
The bezel looks awful. I have a feeling that the lighting is not doing it any favours and it may be better in the metal - it is still not a bezel I find attractive.
![IMG_0419.jpeg IMG_0419.jpeg](https://omegaforums.net/data/attachments/1715/1715511-8dd57a0196aa507bba75f1543dbf57aa.jpg?hash=jdV6AZaqUH)
Crown and pushers look original and that is positive.
I would say the case is quite polished - but all straight lug speedmasters seem to have some sort of polishing.
![IMG_0418.jpeg IMG_0418.jpeg](https://omegaforums.net/data/attachments/1715/1715512-24b2c6a24e97ed39cba3bd4e8ce9af2b.jpg?hash=JLLGok6X7T)
call me a philistine but polished cases on straight lug speedmaster don’t put me off if other attributes draw me in.
The movement has an average amount of watchmaker evidence, without anything bad in terms of condition. The dust cover is a modern service replacement.
![IMG_0420.jpeg IMG_0420.jpeg](https://omegaforums.net/data/attachments/1715/1715514-0f13fb3eb69b08ff111ec780d39b8e18.jpg?hash=DxP7PrabCP)
The reason this watch deserves discussion is that two to three years ago, an Ed White for under $10,000 was saleable on price alone, if it was complete and original parts.
Now, we are in different times. We cannot confirm this movement through the archives, and this is a big stumbling block. Previously we could have allocated a big chunk of value to a confirmed Ed White movement - this cannot be confirmed at this time, although the number looks to fall into accepted range.
I think the dial is too far gone to allocate value, but I do find it interesting. But not valuable.
The bezel may well be better than it looks.
case is acceptable , and they look original pushers which is not as common today as you might think.
The question I ask, is this watch saleable at this level? HQM is a trustworthy dealer whose expertise is in Rolex, and I have in the past managed to buy nice speedmasters from them, and at other times looked at their speedmasters wondering why they bought them. What I like is that they often have quirky watches like this.
Another way to think about this. If we take off dealer premium, then I think of this watch at $8,000. Do I think it’s worth it? Not sure.
$6,000 ? Yes, that’s my no brainier buy button…
$7,000 ? not sure
$8,000 not today.
Can I find another Ed White for $10,000? Not easily.