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Will the Silver Snoopy every be available from a AD?

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All the OBs I know accepted deposits by phone and using a credit card. You didn’t have to be there physically.
Was Vancouver procedure different?

I'm in the same boat, I live in Toronto and called my Toronto AD on Oct. 5th and they said a deposit will guarantee me the watch delivered in Q1/Q2 of 2021, so there was no need for me to call the OB in Vancouver. The AD said that's what Omega told them and even had it written on my deposit receipt.

So it appears some ADs were given the word from omega to take orders and they will be fulfilled by omega.
 
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I'm in the same boat, I live in Toronto and called my Toronto AD on Oct. 5th and they said a deposit will guarantee me the watch delivered in Q1/Q2 of 2021, so there was no need for me to call the OB in Vancouver. The AD said that's what Omega told them and even had it written on my deposit receipt.

So it appears some ADs were given the word from omega to take orders and they will be fulfilled by omega.

that’s exactly the opposite of what happened with my AD in the USA. The AD told me that if I wanted to have a real chance I had to get in contact with an Omega Boutique ASAP, and that’s what I did.
The OB took deposit by phone, no issues there.
I had to wait almost 2 years, but I got my piece.
This was terrible communication by your AD, unfortunately.
Or maybe it was Omega Canada fault… that’s a possibility as well.
 
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I always find it odd that a country as geographically large as Canada, and with about 40 million people, scores only one OB on the west coast. I would think Toronto (5.5 million) and/or Montreal (3.7 million) could easily support one.
 
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I always find it odd that a country as geographically large as Canada, and with about 40 million people, scores only one OB on the west coast. I would think Toronto (5.5 million) and/or Montreal (3.7 million) could easily support one.
My only guess is that the AD’s in those areas signed exclusive geographical distribution rights so Omega can’t open their own boutique without buying out the agreement so Omega is running out the clock on the contract.
 
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The Vancouver boutique does ship across Canada, doesn’t matter if you are in Toronto. Now if the AD guaranteed a watch to a client based on what Omega told them, and then Omega changed their mind after the fact, then I agree that’s not cool.
 
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The Vancouver boutique does ship across Canada, doesn’t matter if you are in Toronto. Now if the AD guaranteed a watch to a client based on what Omega told them, and then Omega changed their mind after the fact, then I agree that’s not cool.
If the AD/Omega did that, it’s terrible form.
I would have placed the order with an official Omega boutique anyway. I had opportunity also of placing orders with deposit with Omega boutiques within US and outside US, I don’t understand why someone would place a deposit with the AD.
The preferential allocation to OB was official back at the reveal… why would you work with an AD?!
I would understand that if you are a whale, then you will get your Snoopy; but if you are just a regular customer you should have picked up the phone, call the OB and place a deposit hopping on the official list. This is what everybody else did.
Too bad they got this misleading information in Canada.
 
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The Vancouver boutique does ship across Canada, doesn’t matter if you are in Toronto. Now if the AD guaranteed a watch to a client based on what Omega told them, and then Omega changed their mind after the fact, then I agree that’s not cool.

My suspicion based on talking to my AD following their discussions with the Omega rep a few weeks ago is that the bolded is basically what's happened now, possibly for reasons of supply and outsize demand.

I contacted the OB within days of the Snoopy announcement and was told that 1) the lists were full and 2) that the best route to obtaining one was to join the list at my AD, who is the largest Omega dealer in Western Canada. They took ten deposits and closed the waiting list at 40, with hundreds turned away. To date, they have received exactly 0 Snoppys and 3 EW21s.

It's a watch, and I'm not waiting up nights fretting about it, but it also may become object lesson in how not to release a halo watch.
 
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My suspicion based on talking to my AD following their discussions with the Omega rep a few weeks ago is that the bolded is basically what's happened now, possibly for reasons of supply and outsize demand.

I contacted the OB within days of the Snoopy announcement and was told that 1) the lists were full and 2) that the best route to obtaining one was to join the list at my AD, who is the largest Omega dealer in Western Canada. They took ten deposits and closed the waiting list at 40, with hundreds turned away. To date, they have received exactly 0 Snoppys and 3 EW21s.

It's a watch, and I'm not waiting up nights fretting about it, but it also may become object lesson in how not to release a halo watch.

I believe this Is exactly how you release a halo watch.
All the collectors I know that got the watch, included myself, started asking about the potential reference years in advance… not few days after the release. I kept checking with Omega AD and OB every 3-6 months, and started doing this since the presentation of the Apollo 11 50th, I stopped by and asked about the Snoopy. They told me they knew nothing multiple times, but they wrote down my name and contacts… and when the time was ready I got a phone call.
I put a deposit and my name was entered in the list more than a month before the presentation of the reference, not a few days after.
If you know something big is about to happen you might need to show interest and make some moves in advance.
I hope you will get your Snoopy, but for future pieces I would suggest you to act like the majority of customers did… ahead of time!
 
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I tend to agree that deep Speedmaster collectors were well prepared, knew this was coming , and knew to work with an OB. People can be mad all they want, claim unfairness, blame Omega etc, say they will never buy again. … but the publicity surrounding the watch is probably overall more positive for the brand than the negative feelings of people that are upset
 
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So your saying it's ok for omega to take deposits and give a eta and not deliver....it's ok because those people are not true speedmaster collectors. That's totally BS. Omega can distribute the Snoopy anyway they want I don't care but don't take people's money and not deliver. Rolex doesn't even pull this move.
 
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The vast majority of people that moved fast and had the deposit with Omega Boutiques are getting their Snoopy. It takes time, and it’s annoying for sure, but they are delivering.
I have no idea why people decided to go with ADs, or why ADs were giving false information; especially when everybody knew from the get go that this would be allocated preferentially to OBs.
Even YouTubers were saying “this will be hard to get, go to an Omega boutique”…
Omega said that as well, in the US for sure.
Watches of Switzerland said that as well, I have emails with my SA telling me they didn’t even have an internal catalogue number for the reference and to forget about getting the watch from them.
I mean, this was very clear!
In order to get the reference, if you were not a big spender customer, you had to:
1. Show interest, better if before the reveal
2. Get in touch with an OB
3. Put a deposit
4. Wait your turn and collect

This was pretty straightforward in the end.
The waiting is quite frustrating, and that is totally understandable, but… c’mon be honest, if you were so interested in the Snoopy why didn’t you have a deposit with an OB? Why you didn’t acted quickly? why the deposit wasn’t placed before the presentation? Why did you put the deposit with an AD?
everything was approached in the wrong way, that’s why you are still waiting for the watch, unfortunately.
If you are genuinely interested I’m sure it will arrive.
Complaining is not gonna help, especially when 99% of the owners got the watch acting in a different way!
 
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As you say @chadeaux it was OB… Everybody should have know after the second Snoopy it was going to be a huge thing and OB only…

The biggest problem for Omega was by the time it was out and people were laying down coin. They were doing promo,s and YouTube influencers were going Gaga over a watch that was already at the limits of being made for all that wanted it.
50th anniversary was about right at 10000 but it brought probably 4000 more people into Speedmasters…

Just like the 50th anniversary we saw heaps of new members here in the thread. Just look at the Snoopy thread now…there is heaps of new members who have only ever had interactions here in the Snoopy thread.
 
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Snoopy thread started in April 2020, watch unveiled in October 2020, and there are now 257 pages and counting. The excitement is still there everytime someone gets the call, and plenty of anxiety still present for those who are still waiting. Many have paid in full, others have made no deposit due to some countries laws. No one knows when their name will bubble to the top; this year, next year, ever? The hype machine is still running albeit at a slower pace. It's interesting to watch how this is all working, the good, the bad and the ugly. There are plenty of Snoopy's on the market at a little over 2x MSRP if someone really wants one, prices have softened a bit and may come down some more.
 
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Snoopy thread started in April 2020, watch unveiled in October 2020, and there are now 257 pages and counting. The excitement is still there everytime someone gets the call, and plenty of anxiety still present for those who are still waiting. Many have paid in full, others have made no deposit due to some countries laws. No one knows when their name will bubble to the top; this year, next year, ever? The hype machine is still running albeit at a slower pace. It's interesting to watch how this is all working, the good, the bad and the ugly. There are plenty of Snoopy's on the market at a little over 2x MSRP if someone really wants one, prices have softened a bit and may come down some more.
That Snoopy thread was how I knew it was coming and when to go down to my OB to put a deposit down. If I waited until announcement day, I would have probably missed out on it.
 
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I always find it odd that a country as geographically large as Canada, and with about 40 million people, scores only one OB on the west coast. I would think Toronto (5.5 million) and/or Montreal (3.7 million) could easily support one.
As a Canadian - I do too! 🙁 Hard to build a relationship with an OB if the only one is literally on the other side of the 2nd largest country in the world.
 
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Answering the question: hopefully!

My AD told me last week that he will get the first Snoopy end of this year and that this one will be for me.

#fingercrossed

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As a Canadian - I do too! 🙁 Hard to build a relationship with an OB if the only one is literally on the other side of the 2nd largest country in the world.

Exactly. It wasn't an option for most of us. And tbh, the whole "establish a relationship with an AD if you want the good watches" mantra seems to run against the grain of the Omega ethos for some time now. I spend my days and quite a few of my nights in an ER or other clinical setting and especially since Covid began there isn't a whole lot of time to be flying across the country to establish and tend a relationship to the single and remote OB in Canada in the hopes of landing a Snoopy that my local AD effectively promised when we lucky 10 plunked our deposits down the day of the release.

Whatever. It's a watch, and I'm not a collector or a flipper. It's more the idea of having to compete and then wait for years to get the chance to pay 14k for a watch. I know of course that fans of other brands are used to it, but I never thought of Omega as being this sort of brand. Now I do, and I've thought twice about buying new releases, including the Bond 60th.

But it's good to see new owners emerging and good luck to all of you hanging in there. Hopefully your ship will come in!
 
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#necrobump. I know I'm late to the party. A friend of mine JUST collected his 50thSS from the Nashville OB last month after being on the waitlist since a week after announcement. Shocked, to this day in 2024, it appears to still be an actively produced reference. I went to my AD to ask if I could have one. I was met with a smirk and a "in 15 years at this AD, we have seen exactly 3 Snoopys". Hurumph. Do I have luck trying now? Has anyone received one from an AD in the last 3 years. I am in Cincinnati and the closest OB is Nashville, Chicago, or NYC. Thoughts? Advice? Comedic laughs? I really dont want to go to the grey market.
 
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#necrobump. I know I'm late to the party. A friend of mine JUST collected his 50thSS from the Nashville OB last month after being on the waitlist since a week after announcement. Shocked, to this day in 2024, it appears to still be an actively produced reference. I went to my AD to ask if I could have one. I was met with a smirk and a "in 15 years at this AD, we have seen exactly 3 Snoopys". Hurumph. Do I have luck trying now? Has anyone received one from an AD in the last 3 years. I am in Cincinnati and the closest OB is Nashville, Chicago, or NYC. Thoughts? Advice? Comedic laughs? I really dont want to go to the grey market.

In my neck of the woods they stopped taking requests or additions to any list in 2022 😉
 
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